Who is this raby guy or shop?

[recycledsixtie]

You are technically correct that Jake does not advertise in the true sense of the word but he does get exposure in responding to owners' assorted problems.
Guy.

[Davev]

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie

You are technically correct that Jake does not advertise in the true sense of the word but he does get exposure in responding to owners' assorted problems.
Guy.

And speaking for all the new guys his input is interesting and appreciated. And as I go way back in time reading old threads- he seems like a great resource for manyover the years.

[Nine8Six]

Nothing is wrong with having a guy standing firm behind his products, being there, making it better, sharing development. You guys sure this is simply called "advertising"? I personally see far more than that to it, no???

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

[eicheldp]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

Well said! I appreciate Mr. Raby for the body of work he has established and his expertise. I'm glad I participated in this forum as a new owner because now I know where I can turn in order to solve a problem with my machine.

I've read a number of threads and some like to post jibes & jokes but sometimes the posts get downright accusatory and argumentative with the desire to provoke. It's just so darn hard to post an emotion and things just get taken the wrong way.

It shouldn't be us verses Jake.

Jake, I appreciate your knowledge and willingness to help. Thank you.

[Jake Raby]

I've been a member of automotive forums since 1995, back when Rennlist was a newsgroup.

I've never had so many accusations made about advertising and marketing by enthusiasts until I began sharing things about these engines online. With the air-cooled forums the guys are much different and much less accusatory, and they feel that we are just another one of them, where here, we are shunned for being professionals in the field.

It got much worse when the economy crashed, lots of vendor haters popped up and I feel it was because they were struggling and barely making it, when they see that we are having the best years ever. They failed to consider that the reason we were having those best years ever was because of the foresight and forethought that we had years prior concerning these engines. While others were too busy swapping out engines that failed, we had been dissecting and figuring the issues out; then working to do something about it.

People used to laugh at us for "wasting time taking these disposable engines apart".

Over the years I made well over 100K posts on aircooled forums and never met this much resistance, and never once encountered a "vendor hater" as those guys were happy as hell that vendors existed and that we'd engage with them on a forum. I guess the people that own the cars are just as different as the cars, themselves.

[BIGJake111]

I likely will never buy a retrofit. But I am very glad that jake is here, why would you not want someone with expertice around on a forum about a car that has a fatal flaw. We should be appreciative of his presence and I have never seen him particularly advocating a retrofit. More often than not he just puts out the stats and lets us think what we want to think about them. Many people on here do advocate retrofits but non of which are associated with jake.

[pjq]

"Who is this raby guy or shop"?
From what I have experienced and read, Jake Raby is a professional mechanic who lives and breaths Porsche engines. My impression is he wants to be the best at what he does (hat off to you Jake) and he doesn't rest on his last project.
This guy who has a wealth of experience with these engines will take time out of his working day to partake in this forum and give learned advise to people like myself who are NOT mechanics. He has also taken the time out of his working day to give advise over the phone to myself.

On this forum and others we are fortunate enough to have these professionals like Jake and others who are willing to give their own time and knowledge to assist us DIY'ers as we muddle through our projects. With their help I was able to rebuild my 986 S after an IMSB failure.
To you professional and experienced mechanics who partake in these forums I appreciate your help and advise.
Thanks, Pat.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Nothing is wrong with having a guy standing firm behind his products, being there, making it better, sharing development. You guys sure this is simply called "advertising"? I personally see far more than that to it, no???

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

There is nothing wrong with marketing your product, that's the American way, the free market, and I'm damned proud of it. My hat is off to anyone who does this, builds a successful business and helps people along the way, as many in this forum have done. I can't think of a more ethical business plan than that. So in a very real way, this is marketing. I have seen many on this forum who 1) know about books and classes on the M96 (like me), and 2) are willing to shell out for them (like me). How many are waiting for the book to come out and will snap it up at the first chance? How many know about and have been to the RED website because of this forum like me? Many, and there is nothing wrong with that, in fact that is a good thing. Is everyone generous to a fault on this forum? That has been my experience, and just to be clear, there is nothing wrong with marketing, without it selling (extremely high quality) headlight retrofit kits for niche market cars would be very difficult.