Who is this raby guy or shop?

[recycledsixtie]

Timco and Jake,
I see both sides of the equation. Jake is just trying to make a living. This is the perfect place for him to advertise his expertise. I can see where he is coming from in only selling his products to recommended installers. Selling them to diy guys/girls and trying to support their installation would be a nightmare.

Conversely having a few ims failures posted in this forum puts fear in the members. We know the approximate odds of a failure. For me to spend $4000(clutch, ims, rms, flywheel etc) prevention on my $19k Boxster makes very little sense. I have the IMS Guardian installed. I will take my chances.

The individual has to make his/her own choice on preemptive repairs. What do you feel comfortable with?

Cheers, Guy.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie

Timco and Jake,
I see both sides of the equation. Jake is just trying to make a living. This is the perfect place for him to advertise his expertise. I can see where he is coming from in only selling his products to recommended installers. Selling them to diy guys/girls and trying to support their installation would be a nightmare.

Conversely having a few ims failures posted in this forum puts fear in the members. We know the approximate odds of a failure. For me to spend $4000(clutch, ims, rms, flywheel etc) prevention on my $19k Boxster makes very little sense. I have the IMS Guardian installed. I will take my chances.

The individual has to make his/her own choice on preemptive repairs. What do you feel comfortable with?

Cheers, Guy.

I don't see much advertising, he usually stays on other topics unless asked, or summoned by a thread with his own name in it haha.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

I don't see much advertising, he usually stays on other topics unless asked, or summoned by a thread with his own name in it haha.

Would you know who he was, or what he did if not for this forum? I wouldn't. That's marketing my friend.

[recycledsixtie]

You are technically correct that Jake does not advertise in the true sense of the word but he does get exposure in responding to owners' assorted problems.
Guy.

[Davev]

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie

You are technically correct that Jake does not advertise in the true sense of the word but he does get exposure in responding to owners' assorted problems.
Guy.

And speaking for all the new guys his input is interesting and appreciated. And as I go way back in time reading old threads- he seems like a great resource for manyover the years.

[Nine8Six]

Nothing is wrong with having a guy standing firm behind his products, being there, making it better, sharing development. You guys sure this is simply called "advertising"? I personally see far more than that to it, no???

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

[eicheldp]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

Well said! I appreciate Mr. Raby for the body of work he has established and his expertise. I'm glad I participated in this forum as a new owner because now I know where I can turn in order to solve a problem with my machine.

I've read a number of threads and some like to post jibes & jokes but sometimes the posts get downright accusatory and argumentative with the desire to provoke. It's just so darn hard to post an emotion and things just get taken the wrong way.

It shouldn't be us verses Jake.

Jake, I appreciate your knowledge and willingness to help. Thank you.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Nothing is wrong with having a guy standing firm behind his products, being there, making it better, sharing development. You guys sure this is simply called "advertising"? I personally see far more than that to it, no???

Don't forget that Mr Raby have helped hundreds of Porsche owners out there (if not thousands, and on various forums) for nothing else than a simple thank you in return. Advertising his generosity is one alone that I am convinced about

Surely he could do less with this kind of thread-going to....

There is nothing wrong with marketing your product, that's the American way, the free market, and I'm damned proud of it. My hat is off to anyone who does this, builds a successful business and helps people along the way, as many in this forum have done. I can't think of a more ethical business plan than that. So in a very real way, this is marketing. I have seen many on this forum who 1) know about books and classes on the M96 (like me), and 2) are willing to shell out for them (like me). How many are waiting for the book to come out and will snap it up at the first chance? How many know about and have been to the RED website because of this forum like me? Many, and there is nothing wrong with that, in fact that is a good thing. Is everyone generous to a fault on this forum? That has been my experience, and just to be clear, there is nothing wrong with marketing, without it selling (extremely high quality) headlight retrofit kits for niche market cars would be very difficult.