What is the name/manufacture of the sin bearing?

[Nine8Six]

there you go friend, contact Jack for a few prototype sensors.... he'll customized their freq for your given application(s) for the same price as well I'm sure. That's just an idea out of hundreds other available mate https://www.stle.org/assets/document/03-08_OA_Sensors.pdf

Let me know when you are done, I'll sponsor a kit off you (for your study ONLY). I could do with a few extra little blue LEDs on my 986 dash!

[Mark_T]

So you keep saying, but all we've seen so far is a load of bluster and biillshiit.

[epapp]

You shouldn't feel bad. We all have opinions...like mine on the IMSG. I didn't say they were stupid, or bash them, I said, from one engineer to another, that it doesn't seem like the right solution to me. Of course the IMSGs success proves itself; they're making money, I'm not. That's why I'm in a forum showing my opinion and not on their porch screaming at their face.

It just so happens other members and I were sharing opinions of the IMSG.

More on topic: I might also have a way to get some undergrads to do the research behind my idea as their senior design project. It would certainly produce more quality research in a timely manner given my schedule. Otherwise, I'll start using my weekends to develop the prototype. More info by the weekend on that.


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[Nine8Six]

I agree with you! You make me miss my best years... although I had to work part-time at McDonald during those

Bear in mind that a lot of 986 owners uses different synthetic oils and weight. Design your system to be as dynamic as possible please. Huge challenge for ya.

imo the LN engineering/Flat6 innovation guardian idea is the best. So bloody simple and ridiculously cheap as well - now that works for me.

Don't quit school (I didn't meant what I said in an earlier post). Apologies

[Shehadehd]

I know epapp talks big and may come off as arrogant, trust me, I know.... But having known him for quite a while, I can say that he only does so when he's pretty darn sure he can back it up. I for one am interested in seeing how the system develops...

I mean, you should see his A/C cold air intake <- jk

[Jake Raby]

Honestly the IMSG only gives a symptom to an issue that otherwise would not have one. The more wise choice is retrofitting.
The IMSG really only makes sense on the cheap cars that aren't worth the cost of retrofitting.

Too many people have used the IMSG as a "trade in tool". They have an alert, quantify that its real, rip the system out and then trade the car off.

That sad, but is occurring. One of the people in my class this past weekend witnessed it occur and shared the story.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

The IMSG really only makes sense on the cheap cars that aren't worth the cost of retrofitting.

Which is what the 986 is today, honestly. Therefore excellent product, works in all its features. Can't see anything wrong with the IMSG and not sure why epapp is so not convinced by its simplicity.

Whatever. I know crap about cars anyway. I'm out of here

[Mark_T]

Originally Posted by Shehadehd

I know epapp talks big and may come off as arrogant, trust me, I know.... But having known him for quite a while, I can say that he only does so when he's pretty darn sure he can back it up. I for one am interested in seeing how the system develops...

may come off as arrogant? ya think? I don't really care how sure he is of himself - you don't walk into a room of knowledgeable, experienced people and start swinging your dick like he did. He needs to learn a little humility, be a little less full of himself, and remember that people here were working on this issue when he was still pushing Tonka trucks around his sandbox and making vroom-vroom noises. Especially given that he has nothing to show us to back his claim, just a bunch of empty chatter.

[Jake Raby]

”Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.“ – Albert Einstein

[epapp]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

may come off as arrogant? ya think? I don't really care how sure he is of himself - you don't walk into a room of knowledgeable, experienced people and start swinging your dick like he did. He needs to learn a little humility, be a little less full of himself, and remember that people here were working on this issue when he was still pushing Tonka trucks around his sandbox and making vroom-vroom noises. Especially given that he has nothing to show us to back his claim, just a bunch of empty chatter.

Somebody is upset :ah:

And I did have a sandbox...that I played with many little trucks in. I think you're just upset that I claim to have a solution all while being so much less experienced than...you?

[Nine8Six]

epapp have recently developed an "x-ray" sensor in his third underground. Don't tell anyone I told you. The automotive spy crowd is after him already

[Mark_T]

Not at all. I just think that your attitude is inappropriate and I call things how I see them.

I work with lots of engineers and I am used to seeing young pups like you fresh out of school thinking that they are God's gift to the field. You'll understand where I am coming from once you have a few more years under your belt.

And, for the record, I'd really like to hear your idea, as opposed to you just telling us what a great idea you think you have.

[epapp]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

I work with lots of engineers

Don't we all

[rp17]

New ideas is something we should never suppress. If we do that and just go with the flow, we become a nation of dummies. So think outside the box and question and improve everything. Besides if this idea of his doesn't work, the cost to us was nothing. But it could lead to a solution for something else.


Exanple.... Two Scientist were working on a drug for high blood pressure iirc. Turned out it didn't work as predicted. But what turned up as well was all the test patients had the same side effects from the drug which was an erection. Ditched the original plan for that drug and started selling some version of that formula as Viagra. From what I remember.

The Guardian is a very good product imho. But lets see what this guys got. Hit or miss I just ask that you be respectful to vets on this forum.

[mikefocke]

If the Guardian says that your engine is shedding ferrous material, that is all that you need to know. Stop. Flatbed. Get it to an engine internals expert and determine the cause. You don't care which of the failure modes is triggering the diagnosis at that point. Because of the warning, you may be able to stop the rotation in time to save the engine from getting little pieces all through the smaller oil passages and thus making the engine a scrap candidate or a complete rebuild candidate ... both of which are perhaps beyond the financial willingness of most. Where the single failure repair might be in time to save the engine and be financially affordable.

A diagnostic test that detected only the IMS failure could leave the engine exposed to the other failure modes some of which could lead to things that could be detected but not by a test for only one thing.

If you are thinking vibration analysis, I know several people who tried it. May you have better luck than they had.

[The Radium King]

perhaps measure static deflection of the shaft? he seems to be focussing on the lateral loading of the bearing, and insinuating that his test will provide info without constant monitoring. this way you could run the test on an engine that isn't running and remove a lot of the variables. of course, uncertain how much deflection a failing bearing would exhibit, and what role deteriorating chain tensioners, etc., would play ...

regardless, lots of trash talk going on here. people appear to not like his attitude, so respond with worse attitudes? I think mark t even threatened a backhand? poor.

[Mark_T]

I did no such thing. And I'm very interested in what he has to show, if he does have something to show. It was just that "real engineering" crack that was such a slap in the face to so many people here that set me off on the guy.

[epapp]

It seems like the only people who got upset were the ones who are scared that they don't actually practice real engineering?


...I'm just kidding...I'd rather not get my 'ear' slapped again.

But seriously, yes I have a good idea with which smart people 'reasonably skilled in the art' think will work (anyone with patents knows what I'm talking about ).

My PI and I are obviously very busy, he wants to meet in the next few days for more discussion on the bearing topic/review what I have on it so far, in addition to selecting my method of attack. So yes the ice is breaking with the project, but I never promised it would be implemented soon

[Nine8Six]

Then, friend, if not real-time oil analysis & monitoring, or, vibration waveform algorithms, then, if not xray, your only last chance to make real engineering real is poking the AE signals of the bearing (acoustic emissions). High sensitivity magnetic dB mic uplinked to a custom iPhone app?

Am I going to win anything by being the only one guessing what's to be guessed?!

[Shehadehd]

Hey Epapp, I have some old skateboard bearings you can use to test your system on. Oh, and the bearing on my Dremel is about to go to.