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Old 01-07-2006, 06:58 AM   #1
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For those who don't believe a clutch can go a long long time you may not be aware that you can learn to change gears upshifting on a manual without using the clutch at all. Maybe that is an old timer trick that just isn't picked up by the younger crowd these days.

You need to learn the right engine speed to make the switch. Once you get that down you can be incredibly smooth with your shifts even when you do use the clutch which will result in very little wear.

Here are my personal experiences and the mileage on the original clutch before I got rid of the cars:

1984 MBZ 190E 232,000 miles
1985 VW GTI 203,000

As with most things in life, your mileage may vary.
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Old 01-07-2006, 08:35 PM   #2
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My theory is clutch life is inversely proportional to the number of traffic jams encountered. And left leg strength is directly proportional to same...

Never replaced a clutch yet, all my cars have gone over 100K even with spirited driving. In my high school set, it was a point of religion to keep your foot off the clutch and hand off the knob when not shifting... people would call you on it. I think that discipline helps with long clutch and tranny life.
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Like many other said, it really depends on the drivers. To me, I think if you don't ride on your clutch at the traffic lights or on the slope, your clutch will last forever. I recently rebuilding my 1986 E30, it has 275K. I bought it brand new. I pulled the clutch plate out and compared to a brand clutch plate. They almost have the same thichness. HTH.
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110K on Honda 1982 "Wagovan" Clutch

I am about to replace the clutch in my Boxster because it is starting to slip a little at 52K. But my son is driving a 1982 Honda Civic "Wagovan" that has 110,000 miles and the original clutch. It is not the snappiest clutch I have ever used, but it works.

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My daily beater is a 1990 Nissan truck with 206,000 miles on the original power train. I put 165k miles on my Datsun 240Z before I sold it never replacing the clutch but rebuilt the 4-speed twice due to weak main shaft bearings. Clutches will last if you treat them right.
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I am about to replace the clutch in my Boxster because it is starting to slip a little at 52K. But my son is driving a 1982 Honda Civic "Wagovan" that has 110,000 miles and the original clutch. It is not the snappiest clutch I have ever used, but it works.

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I don't think I need a clutch yet, but I'd be interested in knowing about your experience for future reference.
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:58 AM   #7
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Is clutch slip just when you can pop it out of gear without putting the clutch in (while driving or accelerating)? Or is it if you drop it down a couple gears with the engine reved and drop the clutch and the car doesnt do anything but continue to rev?
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perfect shifting

by the way, anyone know about perfect shifting on a boxster? without using the clutch? just curious
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by the way, anyone know about perfect shifting on a boxster? without using the clutch? just curious
Forget about it.....

If you don't, start saving big bucks for tranny work.

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For those who don't believe a clutch can go a long long time you may not be aware that you can learn to change gears upshifting on a manual without using the clutch at all. Maybe that is an old timer trick that just isn't picked up by the younger crowd these days.

You need to learn the right engine speed to make the switch. Once you get that down you can be incredibly smooth with your shifts even when you do use the clutch which will result in very little wear.

Here are my personal experiences and the mileage on the original clutch before I got rid of the cars:

1984 MBZ 190E 232,000 miles
1985 VW GTI 203,000

As with most things in life, your mileage may vary.
I use to do that in my Eclipse GST, It had bad crankwalk so the pressure plate sometimes touched the clutch disc, making it hard to shift sometimes, so i learned how to shift without the clutch, it was pretty easy, just get the vehicle speed to match the correct RPM's for the rite gear and it just slips in there quite nicely without grinding.
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94 Honda Accord. 5speed. 205,000. Clutch still works. Never replaced. Hmmmmm
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Clutch replacement

I have been driving for over 50 years.I have owned approximately 50 cars and have never replaced a clutch. Like many of my peers, I have always shifted into neutral and released the clutch at stop lights. I believe that and not "speed shifting" is the reason for longer clutch life.
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I have been driving for over 50 years.I have owned approximately 50 cars and have never replaced a clutch. Like many of my peers, I have always shifted into neutral and released the clutch at stop lights. I believe that and not "speed shifting" is the reason for longer clutch life.
What a great car, my firebird was, paid $400 for it, it was great, sad to sell it (for $300) anyway, I had to replace the clutch at about 138,000 miles, even with neutral stopping, so who knows? But, like the deceased Toyota MR2 Spyder, it wasn't a Porsche
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