Leak between Foam Liner/tray and Drain hose

[gunman168]

Hello,

I have a 97 Boxster 986. I have troubles finding the leak that floods my module found under driver's seat. I had the car thoroughly repainted and I am not sure if everything was in place during re-installation by painter.

There was no leak from the front drains. I suspect that the leak comes from the backside drain specifically on the drainhole of the foam liner tray undearneath clamshell. There is no leak on the foam liner itself since every suspected hole was sealed and tested but I think the problem lies specifically in between the liner/tray drainhole and the drain hose underneath it which runs underneath the wheel well. The drain hose does not have a leak but perhaps water seeps right from the drainhole of liner/tray just before it goes to the drain hose underneath it since I noticed a partial gap in between them (liner drain hole vs drain hose).

Pic taken from web to show what part I am talking about. (Thank you to original image poster)



Can anybody give me an image of what exactly is underneath the foam liner in the drainhole part? I think its missing something or maybe needing adhesion to the drain hose to avoid the gap that is suspected to run water in between them which is seeping to the cabin. A picture of the part in between drainhole to drain hose will help me conclude on what is wrong. I cant dissasemble the foam liner tray as I do not have proper tools. I wanted to first know whats wrong so I may plan how to fix it.

Well this is only my hypothesis on the dilema. Though maybe somebody has a better answer? I am just guessing and any input is greatly appreciated.

Thank you everyone!

[gunman168]

Anyone have any idea about this?

Thanks.

[Kenny Boxster]

Hi gunman168, before you take anything apart, is it possible the drain holes are clogged? Leaves and debris easily clog them up. Run some compressed air or bicycle brake cable through them and see if that helps.

[gunman168]

Yes they were clogged before, after the painting but I was able to unclog them. I tested and watter flows freely to bottom of wheelwell. Still had the same problem after unclogging.

[thstone]

From your description of the problem, my first instinct is to wonder about a crack in the foam liner. This would create the same situation as you theorize where water gets between the foam liner and the fenderwell drain but does not go down the drain line. This might be more likely if the painter removed any portion of the foam liner during the paint job.

[Meir]

hi gunman.
there is another drain hole that is very hard to find.
its located at the end of the clam-shell rail.
see yellow arrow (took me 3 months to find it )
not sure it will solve your problem, but it needs to be clean.

[gunman168]

@ thstone

There is no existing crack in the liner as I covered every suspected crack with a dynamat type of material. I even tested it if everything goes down the drainhole of the foam liner and it seems all was well. I just cant tell if the leak is between the foam liner drainhole and the drain hose mouth since I cant see underneath but there is a space in between them.

@ Meir

Yes I also unclogged it was well. Pumped it with airpressure and it seems all water went inside the hole when tested.


Any other input guys?

[milliemax]

there should be 2 thinwall PVC tubes that fit in the rear drain holes. These tubes keep the water from seeping between the foam. I made sure that they were at the proper height (flush) for complete drainage and then sealed around the edge with "Elmers " old fashion glue to seal the tube to the foam. With " Elmers" there is no chemical reaction or distruction to the foam. The tubes are about...1/2 '' ib X 4''

[gunman168]

Originally Posted by milliemax

there should be 2 thinwall PVC tubes that fit in the rear drain holes. These tubes keep the water from seeping between the foam.

The tubes are about...1/2 '' ib X 4''

Do you have pics of these 2 thinwall PVC tubes my friend? Just so I will know if I am missing them or perhaps I could order them online.

Thank you.

[milliemax]

Originally Posted by gunman168

Do you have pics of these 2 thinwall PVC tubes my friend? Just so I will know if I am missing them or perhaps I could order them online.

Thank you.

I do not think the thin wall has much to do with it. OB is most important. PVC water pipe should fit. Just make sure you set it down enough to drain the water , then seal it. Sorry , no pictures. Be careful and do not tear the foam, make sure the pipe goes thru all the way so the water does not enter the foam layers. The reason for the pipe is to flow the water by all the layers, top thin layer,thick foam layer, bottom layer and the metal body. IT'S A DRAIN just like the "tail piece" drain in your sink. Good luck , It should be simple for you to do .

[gunman168]

Originally Posted by milliemax

I do not think the thin wall has much to do with it. OB is most important. PVC water pipe should fit. Just make sure you set it down enough to drain the water , then seal it. Sorry , no pictures. Be careful and do not tear the foam, make sure the pipe goes thru all the way so the water does not enter the foam layers. The reason for the pipe is to flow the water by all the layers, top thin layer,thick foam layer, bottom layer and the metal body. IT'S A DRAIN just like the "tail piece" drain in your sink. Good luck , It should be simple for you to do .

So from what I understand, I should put some kind of PVC tube to connect the drain hole of liner to the drain tube on the metal body? This way it will keep the water from going in between the foam underneath but instead directly to the drain tube. Is this correct? But is there really an OEM part for this which I am missing after my paint job?

[schoir]

There is a small white plastic cup shaped like a small funnel directly under the drain hole and the foam liner.

Sometimes that cup/funnel gets separated from the drain tube, and sometimes the cup/funnel develops a hairline crack due to age and vibration.

In either case, it will cause a leak into the cabin.

In order to properly seal it, you have to remove the foam drain tray liner.

You can remove the foam liner only after removing the top frame assembly. If you look at the other parts of the DIY from where you got the photo that you posted, you will find instructions on how to remove the complete top and frame assembly. It's not overly complicated as it basically involves removing three 13mm bolts from each side of the frame base.

Regards, Maurice.