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particlewave 09-08-2012 11:40 PM

Boxster vandalized right in front of me!
 
Mine was vandalized right in front of me about an hour ago. I'm so pissed off that I don't know what to do, but I feel homicidal.

Pulled into the gas station after a hard days work. Had the top down to enjoy the cool night air. As soon as I pulled into the lot, a group of about a dozen douchbag kids on their silly little crotch rocket toys started yelling obscenities at me. Fuming mad, I kept my mouth shut. I got out and locked it, as I always do when the top is down, and one of them of them yelled "did you just lock that, you f'in loser?"

Still, I kept my mouth shut and walked inside. While at the register, I hear the alarm go off, so I looked out the window and sure enough, one of those fu€kwads had his arm inside the car car. I run out and a verbal confrontation ensues. Wanted to hurt somebody bad, but the little di€kless bastards had me surrounded and wasn't much I could do except get in the car and leave. They proceeded to follow me for several miles and swerve back and forth at me. Can't tell you how badly I just wanted to run one or two of the little fu€kers over!

Got home and went to open the door and saw that the trim piece that goes around the inside drivers door handle was gone. Found it on the passenger floorboard, broken. Seriously want to hurt someone badly. Don't know how to deal with the anger. Help me guys. I'm going to lose it! :(

Considering trying to trade it in on Monday. I love my car, but I can't take this ******************** anymore!!!

particlewave 09-08-2012 11:46 PM

Took a picture of some of them as I was leaving, just in case, but can't see or make out any plates.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...46EB8F9417.jpg

Bmod986 09-08-2012 11:53 PM

How strict are the gun laws in missouri? hahahaha. flash flash.

But in all understanding IT SUCKS to have to share the world with people like that. You would think that people would be more respectful. I had my car dinged in home depot. Some low life slamed a shopping cart into the front passenger side next to the light. I was furious and if I had seen who did it I would not have held back.
Personally I would have called the cops in you situation, and also Im sure the gas station has cameras so get some plates and file a report for vandalism.

SolidWorks Mike 09-09-2012 12:08 AM

MO is an open carry state.

particlewave 09-09-2012 01:06 AM

Believe me, I've considered open carry, but it would probably instigate more problems than anything...and i would probably be in jail.

Went back to the gas station and they are going to email me the videos, but there were no cameras where I parked, so the actual act won't be on tape. Said he could get the plates by zooming in, but no real evidence :(

Crono0001 09-09-2012 01:33 AM

Particlewave. First me, now you. I feel your pain my friend.

Bala 09-09-2012 02:01 AM

Why didn't you call the cops or have the gas station call the cops? This happened on a private property and that too they vandalized YOUR private property.

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 02:50 AM

You should have recorded every single license plate number you could, that way you can report it. Then if the police did nothing at least you have something to work with in identification.

I understand how you guys feel. Some drunk dude was raising his voice Friday on the outdoor patio. "shouting about Porsche cars, saying how he was going to have one and in general just being a dick that I have one". He'd come over and say " Do you have a rolex too?".

Apparently people have a hard time conceiving of someone sacrificing other things in life to obtain one dream. The house I dwell in isn't worth a whole lot more than my car, (try pulling that off with a wife and kids) yet when someone sees it that thought never enters their head. It never occurs to them that you started picking up trash at age 8 for quarters and worked every subsequent year in a family that valued honest hard work.

PS People are creatures of habit, that gas station is probably a common stop for them, maybe you will see them again or get just one plate number from one pic, that's all you need, that and a friend on the force to run the digits. I am surprised because usually crotch rocket guys like sports cars and live and let live attitudes. You did the smart thing Pwave, hats off to you, one moment of insanity and those bikes could have been a rerun of Pee Wees big adventure. Find out who they are, get justice and post when you do, I'd be carrying this photo for the next six months, has helmet colors, riding gear and bikes, sooner or later one of these road warriors is going to reappear, I'd spend some time combing some common biker bars. When you find them, clip their air stems with some side cutters or better yet pour some brake fluid right over the top of the tank, merry xmas mother @#$%^ers. No wonder most of these cars are garage queens!

Bruce Wayne 09-09-2012 03:10 AM

Quote:

Considering trying to trade it in on Monday. I love my car, but I can't take this ******************** anymore!!!
if you do that, you've effectively bowed down to those who desire to take or prevent you having, not only what you love and enjoy but what you have worked for.

Why should you have the scum dictate what you can own and enjoy. Enjoy your Porsche and have pride in that it's yours, you earned it.

:cheers:

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 03:23 AM

I'm with Bruce, screw those guys, they didn't even offend me and I want to come to your state and kick them in the a$$.

Reckles_Kelly 09-09-2012 04:24 AM

Here in Fl, you have the right to defend yourself AND your property! With their arm in your property, I would have come out of the store with my gun drawn and detained them there until the cops showed up. If they had advanced towards me at that point, with the disparity of force rule, it would have been a justified shoot!

Brockmeister 09-09-2012 04:49 AM

That really sucks about your car. You can still call the cops. I'm sure the gas station has cameras outside that probably show the guy messing with your car. Give them a call and see what they say.

Chief 09-09-2012 06:01 AM

Guys like that give riders a bad rep. More like cowards because most Porsche drivers are level headed which you showed. You won't have to look far, they more than likely hang out at that some store or one like it close by. Its about "see and be seen" I see it all the time here. They don't really ride. They hang out at stores and gas stations etc. Any place where they can be noticed.

Ghostrider has excellent advice. Just show up in another car about the same day and time. Take all the pictures you can.

I'd probably show up in an old beater with no insurance and "accidentally" back over a couple of them. But then again, I'd be to worried that "I" would be the one that got into trouble.

Jake Raby 09-09-2012 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 305327)
Mine was vandalized right in front of me about an hour ago. I'm so pissed off that I don't know what to do, but I feel homicidal.

Pulled into the gas station after a hard days work. Had the top down to enjoy the cool night air. As soon as I pulled into the lot, a group of about a dozen douchbag kids on their silly little crotch rocket toys started yelling obscenities at me. Fuming mad, I kept my mouth shut. I got out and locked it, as I always do when the top is down, and one of them of them yelled "did you just lock that, you f'in loser?"

Still, I kept my mouth shut and walked inside. While at the register, I hear the alarm go off, so I looked out the window and sure enough, one of those fu€kwads had his arm inside the car car. I run out and a verbal confrontation ensues. Wanted to hurt somebody bad, but the little di€kless bastards had me surrounded and wasn't much I could do except get in the car and leave. They proceeded to follow me for several miles and swerve back and forth at me. Can't tell you how badly I just wanted to run one or two of the little fu€kers over!

Got home and went to open the door and saw that the trim piece that goes around the inside drivers door handle was gone. Found it on the passenger floorboard, broken. Seriously want to hurt someone badly. Don't know how to deal with the anger. Help me guys. I'm going to lose it! :(

Considering trying to trade it in on Monday. I love my car, but I can't take this ******************** anymore!!!

This is why I often open carry a .45 on my hip.

Bmod986 09-09-2012 06:31 AM

If they have cameras in front of the register then they have you looking out the window leaving and making hand gestures. Equally so they have to have one of the vandals leaving his bike to approach your vehicle or its general direction. You also have the store owner as a witness. So you have the property owner on your side and that counts for something. Plus if these guys act like this that means they surely have one previous incident that was reported. So repeated offenders.

And the gun comment was more of a joke. If your not 100% sold on being able to hold the responsibility of a weapon then its not even worth considering it. The idea is that these guys are all tough and push because they were in a group, If they see a weapon no matter how many people are in that group they would most probably back down. Especially after they broke into your vehicle which would put you in the postion to defend your property.

That aside you option is report it.

schnellman 09-09-2012 06:53 AM

I prefer concealed carry (although Ohio allows open carry as well). On those rare occasions when I've felt threatened, I simply pull my shirt up over the handle of the revolver to display it. So far, that's all it has taken to get folks to smarten up and step back.

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby (Post 305351)
This is why I often open carry a .45 on my hip.

This always sounds tough but as a CCW holder and owner of several weapons what good would it do in this scenario? You going to pull your piece and sight some guy in and shout stop? What if he calls that bluff you ready to go take a life long sit to prove a point? You don't draw a pistol unless you are ready to kill with it, period.


In NY use deadly force when not confronted with same and you go to jail not the dickheads, frankly pepper spray would be better to have, right up under the helmet but even that would be assault if they got your plate. I'd hunt these Frucks like a sixteen pointer, plan my revenge and serve it. AND I'd hit them right where they tried to hit you, on their prized saw horses, they are lucky this wasn't me for real.

Frodo 09-09-2012 09:03 AM

There are dirt bags everywhere, no getting around it. Knock on wood, I've had no problems here in NE Ohio yet...we'll see how long my luck lasts. My kid, on the other hand, has a 2000 Celica GTS that's largely stripped down for track use (though he uses it some day to day as well)---a very unassuming looking car, silver in color, no bling to call attention to itself. He had his keyed by some a-hole a year or two back. Boy was he PO'd and you can't blame him. He's just startin' out, doesn't have a lot of money, carries fairly minimal insurance.

Driving the Box not too long ago (top-down) I was stopped at a light on a four-lane road. Guy on a Harley pulls up next to me, pretty 'biker' lookin', and I expected him to give me some crap about what I'm drivin', this semi-exotic German-built machine, thinking hard about what my reaction's gonna be. He surprised me:

"Nice car," he says with obvious conviction.
"Uh..thanks! I'm lovin' it," I respond and we go our separate ways.

People are hard to figure...

rp17 09-09-2012 09:12 AM

Wow what a bad situation. Aholes are everywhere. I think the safest solution was to snap off a couple of pictures and like someone else said, call the cops!

They would of jumped in there little crotch rockets and left I'm sure but that would be a better ending than the ambulance having to show up. Easier said than done I understand.

Kenny Boxster 09-09-2012 11:07 AM

That's a shame. Surprised a lot of people on here don't carry firearms regarding the nature of our cars. Even though now the price of our cars is low, it's the marque that attracts unwanted attention.

particlewave 09-09-2012 11:33 AM

Quietly plotting my revenge...I will use my superior intellect ;)

Eric G 09-09-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 305386)
Quietly plotting my revenge...I will use my superior intellect ;)

...and "if" anything comes of this hopefully we never hear of it other then you are a happy person once again.

Sorry you had to deal with this type of shyt.

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 305386)
Quietly plotting my revenge...I will use my superior intellect ;)


No matter what you decide make sure the bulk of the planning is executing the revenge without DETECTION. Before winter is perfect, your Boxster will be in hiding soon. Maybe you don't need to wreck vehicles and put yourself in police gunsights, see below.


If any of them are married you can use my ultimate eff you that I once plotted against a site manager. Find the married guy in the group. Go to backpage.com, locate hooker phone number and make like you intend on using said service. Last step, send post card to married guy's house from hooker saying she appreciated all the business and she wanted to give him a "heads up" on an address change, include hooker name and phone number to sell it hard.

Let Harley tough guy explain that, then repeat in six weeks, this time with a gay escort.

Crono0001 09-09-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 305374)
People are hard to figure...

One thing that I see a lot on this forum is prejudice towards other types of drivers. Don't let a small group of idiots define a whole group of people. Just because these punk kids were riding bikes doesn't mean all bikers are bad. Same thing goes with ricer rockets. I'd still consider myself a ricer rocket every time I get in my WRX.

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 11:54 AM

As a former biker and accident survivor, I used to preach the same sermon Cron but lately all I see from motorcycles is asinine lane changes at rocket speeds and a general sense of road ownership.

particlewave 09-09-2012 02:23 PM

I try to have respect for everyone until their actions deem otherwise. However, I have not seen a sensibly driven sport bike in many years, so it's kind of hard to keep the viewpoint that they are not all idiots endangering others.

bar10dah 09-09-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 305336)
I am surprised because usually crotch rocket guys like sports cars and live and let live attitudes.

Well, sport bike riders and crotch rocket riders are two different breeds... The kids involved here are the latter.

Chief 09-09-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bar10dah (Post 305404)
Well, sport bike riders and crotch rocket riders are two different breeds... The kids involved here are the latter.

^^ My thoughts as well

Jake Raby 09-09-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 305358)
This always sounds tough but as a CCW holder and owner of several weapons what good would it do in this scenario? You going to pull your piece and sight some guy in and shout stop? What if he calls that bluff you ready to go take a life long sit to prove a point? You don't draw a pistol unless you are ready to kill with it, period.
.

I know when to pull a weapon to use it, I have experience with that.

Get out of a car wearing a .45 and you don't have to pull it or show it to get a positive reaction.

Skrapmot 09-09-2012 02:53 PM

Did those guys use a credit card to buy anything? They would be easy to match up between camera's timecode and purchases. Anybody would be ok, as they were all accessories to the crime.

bar10dah 09-09-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrapmot (Post 305408)
Did those guys use a credit card to buy anything? They would be easy to match up between camera's timecode and purchases. Anybody would be ok, as they were all accessories to the crime.

What a grand idea! Never even thought of that. Would definitely be well worth pursuing. Even if it's over a cheap plastic interior piece. It may disrupt your life a bit, having to file the paperwork, maybe even do a photo lineup to pick the kid that you caught coming out of your car, but maybe you'll curve their behavior in the future, when they learn there are consequences to their actions. But who knows, could also be a tremendous waste of time.

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Raby (Post 305406)
I know when to pull a weapon to use it, I have experience with that.

Get out of a car wearing a .45 and you don't have to pull it or show it to get a positive reaction.


Bull****************, pull it on the wrong dude someday and you will be the tap dancer. Even if you shot a round into the ground and ended the conflict, your carry days would be over in NY. If mine comes out of the holster the negotiating is over and the killing is going to begin. Real life isn't Hollywood, pistols are not made for intimidation they are for killing. If I had my .45 on me and the same thing happened that happened to Pwave, I would have stayed cool and done exactly what he did. Now if one of them threatened me with equal deadly force, then it's game on but as the "johnny danger" of real life once said to me. He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.

Bob O 09-09-2012 03:26 PM

Ummmmm Missouri is NOT an open carry state! You can carry in the car...but it has to be concealed. You do not need a CCW to carry in the car but it MUST be concealed from outside view. You cannot legally carry on your person, outside the home or car, without a CCW license, and again, it must be concealed. Pulling it out just to intimidate will get you thrown in jail, quickly. It's brandishing and looked down on rather harshly. Don't do it Particleweave. As someone said above...if you pull it you'd beter be ready to use it, and you'd better be justified. You were outnumbered but apparently there wasn't any threat to you personally. (And as a side note..."using it" does not necessarily mean killing the bad guy, as was stated above. ie, putting three center mass vs the legs, etc. There's a big debate/discussion/argument about the pros and cons of both. If you decide to carry, you would be wise to read up on all the issues involved, and there are many. Sorry, this discussion would be better in another thread)

I'm very very sorry about your situation. Again, as someone said above, pepper spray might have been very effective. I carry pepper spray all the time, in addition to my legally concealed .40.

Where in Missouri do you live? Where did this happen? If you're in my area it would help to know where it happened. Maybe we can go out sometime and find those pi@@ants parked outside some bar :). hmmmm problem is they probably weren't old enough to get in a bar.

Again, I feel very sorry for this. I know how you feel. I've had idiots pawing all over my Harley and my Boxster, with equal results. None of which were very fun for the perpetrators. But I doubt they do it again. People have no respect at all for other people's property. None. Too bad for them if they try that with someone who has less restraint than you did. I commend you on that. But these little twerps need a serious talking to (he says euphemistically).

Pm me if you wish.

Damm...this got my blood boiling.

Bob

Ghostrider 310 09-09-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reckles_Kelly (Post 305341)
Here in Fl, you have the right to defend yourself AND your property! With their arm in your property, I would have come out of the store with my gun drawn and detained them there until the cops showed up. If they had advanced towards me at that point, with the disparity of force rule, it would have been a justified shoot!

Just one question, you ready to let a few gold dots fly when the biggest one starts walking toward you without a weapon but with the intent of taking your weapon?

Idaho Red Rocket 3 09-09-2012 03:45 PM

Pwave,

Don't sell the car. Fix it and love it.

Find the turd who did it through the group he was riding with. Most likely he is a bully and one of the group riders will give him up.

Bmod986 09-09-2012 04:10 PM

Again I said don't take the gun comment to heart. IT IS A WEAPON NOT A FASHION STATEMENT. If im not mistaken Pwave said he was surrounded at the gas station when he confronted the bikers and later followed and they did apparently harass him on the road. The weapon would have surved as a protection incase these guys weren't all talk but from the looks of it which is 9 out of 10 these guys are all talk.

The point is acting tough can get you hurt but you also have to defend what is yours. Pwave did what the grand majority of us would have done. Unarmed and outnumbered starting something would have ended bad. AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE THE BEST THING TO DO AFTER THEY CAME AT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN TO CALL THE COPS. call them out and call the cops. but we are way past that point so report the after math an hope for the best, plotting isn't a bad idea either. best of luck and that hooker idea is pretty funny.

Bryan topping 09-09-2012 04:26 PM

I agree, not a fashion statement. My Dad taught me if you are going to carry be prepared to use it. That being said, let them play there little game. This class envy comes from the top down like it did in the 80's. Politicians way to get votes. Let them know how you feel in November by rejecting it. I think they are in for a big surprise....

ekam 09-09-2012 04:46 PM

Death sentence - YouTube

Bmod986 09-09-2012 05:15 PM

Ekam that is a dark analogy. Completely different scenario. Those guys are murders. With that said that was a great movie truly intense.

Johnny Danger 09-09-2012 06:56 PM

Had those ********************tards come near the Dangermobile, the last thing they would have remembered seeing would be muzzle flash ! Then I would track down their mothers and kick them in the uterus for having them !!! :mad:


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