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Old 05-29-2017, 02:33 PM   #1
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Made the templates, cut the CCG grills and fitted to the nose. The CCG grills are high quality, very sturdy (power coated aluminum alloy) and they flow 77% of the air vs wide open (which is very good for a relatively dense mesh, BTW). CCG is one of the few places I've found that actually have specs for their grill material. YMMV, but good stuff for me.



Here's a pic before I snipped the zip ties so the placement can be seen:



I made sure that there is no interference for the ducting:



Next up - finish cleaning the radiators / condensers and button it up. Then on installing the immobilizer in the waterproof case.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:58 PM   #2
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Hi Fred - Thanks for the info on CCG grill material. Looking forward to picking this up and doing the same. Also watched your Vimeo video. Great stuff and thanks for sharing!

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Hi Fred - Thanks for the info on CCG grill material. Looking forward to picking this up and doing the same. Also watched your Vimeo video. Great stuff and thanks for sharing!

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Hi Joe, You're welcome! Thanks for the comment on our Vimeo video. Didi and I are really fortunate to share a common interest in participating in motorsports activities.

The CCG material worked out really well for me. Looking forward to seeing your results.
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Solid job there [another] oldcarguy

Incidentally, "flow" rate will actually be higher than 77%. The 77% rate is amount of stagnant fill with mesh versus wide open. The flow rate could be a bit lower than wide open but won't drop anywhere near theoretical 23% based on amount of fill the mesh provides.

I did similar (IIRC rated at 80% fill) 5-6 years back on my 997 C2S. Even after numerous HPDEs in 95F hazy, hot, and humid weather w/ 30+ min sessions, only effect has been easier cleaning of condensers & rads... No to mention, I haven't had to replace one AC condensers since installing mesh either - wish I'd done after I lost first one years ago... Bottom line, I have experienced ZERO negative impact to cooling efficiency/capabilities (as nay-sayers to this mod will try and proclaim).

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Made the templates, cut the CCG grills and fitted to the nose. The CCG grills are high quality, very sturdy (power coated aluminum alloy) and they flow 77% of the air vs wide open (which is very good for a relatively dense mesh, BTW). CCG is one of the few places I've found that actually have specs for their grill material. YMMV, but good stuff for me.



Here's a pic before I snipped the zip ties so the placement can be seen:



I made sure that there is no interference for the ducting:



Next up - finish cleaning the radiators / condensers and button it up. Then on installing the immobilizer in the waterproof case.
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Well, I couldn't take it any longer. The sticky, scratch if you look at it coating on the interior was driving me nuts. I had already covered the door flaps, handle release covers, seat hinge covers and trim pieces for the back of the console in leather. I did not want to do that for the console as I didn't have enough leather anyway.

Ultimately I decided to use the same nano-covering (C-Quartz) I did on the door thresholds which has held up really well. So...with a long three day weekend, why not. I stripped all of the coating off with hot water, alcohol and a lot of green scrubbing pads. Once cleaned it leaves a nice textured surface although it is a bit plasticky. However, no more sticky and it's very scratch resistant.

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Well, I couldn't take it any longer. The sticky, scratch if you look at it coating on the interior was driving me nuts. I had already covered the door flaps, handle release covers, seat hinge covers and trim pieces for the back of the console in leather. I did not want to do that for the console as I didn't have enough leather anyway.



Ultimately I decided to use the same nano-covering (C-Quartz) I did on the door thresholds which has held up really well. So...with a long three day weekend, why not. I stripped all of the coating off with hot water, alcohol and a lot of green scrubbing pads. Once cleaned it leaves a nice textured surface although it is a bit plasticky. However, no more sticky and it's very scratch resistant.





Looks sooo much better! When you covered the other bits with leather, how did you glue it down? I'm about to do my door pockets.


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CBRacerX,

I just bought a lambskin leather jacket from the thrift store for $5. I used the standard contact cement in the small brown colored bottle from Lowes/Home Depot. I di not use any felt or backing but just cleaned the pieces the same was as the console and then carefully covered. Photos attached and very pleased with results.

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I just bought a lambskin leather jacket from the thrift store for $5. I used the standard contact cement in the small brown colored bottle from Lowes/Home Depot. I di not use any felt or backing but just cleaned the pieces the same was as the console and then carefully covered. Photos attached and very pleased with results.

Thanks, I have very thin lambskin ready to use. Did you apply the contact cement to to both surfaces and wait for it to skin over? Or just to the part you were putting the leather on?
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I just bought a lambskin leather jacket from the thrift store for $5. I used the standard contact cement in the small brown colored bottle from Lowes/Home Depot. I di not use any felt or backing but just cleaned the pieces the same was as the console and then carefully covered. Photos attached and very pleased with results.

Did this over the weekend to the door pocket covers. A little soft black lambskin, some contact cement, a little patience and viola! Looks and feels great. Next up is the plastic covers near the door handles.
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Solid job there [another] oldcarguy

Incidentally, "flow" rate will actually be higher than 77%. The 77% rate is amount of stagnant fill with mesh versus wide open. The flow rate could be a bit lower than wide open but won't drop anywhere near theoretical 23% based on amount of fill the mesh provides.

I did similar (IIRC rated at 80% fill) 5-6 years back on my 997 C2S. Even after numerous HPDEs in 95F hazy, hot, and humid weather w/ 30+ min sessions, only effect has been easier cleaning of condensers & rads... No to mention, I haven't had to replace one AC condensers since installing mesh either - wish I'd done after I lost first one years ago... Bottom line, I have experienced ZERO negative impact to cooling efficiency/capabilities (as nay-sayers to this mod will try and proclaim).

Good luck
Hi Burg, thanks! And thanks for the clarification regarding stagnant fill vs flow rate. Good to know that your real world experience supports this mod. I just could not leave two condensers and three radiators in the open for street driving. I made a similar mod for the oil cooler on my R1100s.
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