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Originally Posted by Perfectlap

yes it robs torque vs. a manual, in addition to HP. Meaning there is a net loss with a tip.
I think that if Porsche had completely addressed the issue, then the Excellence contributor wouldn't have cited the tip power/torque reduction as a reason to opt for the manual S vs. the tip.

I have no experience driving a tip. BUt I have driven paddles and I can say that these are inventions of the Devil which have ruined motorsports. But Great if you're an older guy or have physical limitations.
Hopefully someday I'll find that Ferrari 360 coupe with NO paddles. :cheers:

Ok,

Well, all I can say is that the contributor is either very biased or wrong, or both.

Auto Boxes are not lower in torque than their Manual counterparts and Porsche does Up the horsepower of the TipS cars. These are not opinion, they are fact. I'll be happy to dig out the sources, though it may take me a day or two.

A lot of people in the Enthusiast World (in the General Public for that matter) tend to lean toward conformity. The reigning opinion is that a Manual is everything and an Auto Box is Trash. Because of this, many people form an opinion which is safe, but maybe without objectively looking at all the facts. Of course, the gearbox is just a part of a Sports Car and the Boxster experience. Top speed difference is minimal 2-3MPH and the 0-60 times are very close as well. But, either will give you the Boxster experience, and in several categories, the TipS wins out. So, it all boils down to what you prefer. One caveat though, if you haven't driven both, you have no basis to form an opinion either way.

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

I have driven both for several years.

I like them both, depending on my mood.

If I feeling frisky that day, I like the six speed.

If I am mellow or am going to sit in traffic, the tip rules.

The Tip is a very good manumatic BTW.

:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

Hi,

I agree with all that you say here. They are both good, but for different reasons. I own 5 cars and 4 of them are Manuals. I find it very refreshing to jump into the Boxster and let the Box do my thinking. I certainly don't enjoy the car any less than any of my others. If I get the penchant to shift, all I have to do is jump into some different Sheet Metal to do it.

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

I don't think the Contributor is biased. He might be wrong but its consistent with everything I've heard of from the track where drivers complain of a lag between shifts in the tip.
I'll have to find a tipS this weekend and try it out.

Is there much traffic in Warsaw? I am ignorant to such things.

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Ok,

But lets clarify what we're talking about. First it was a loss of Torque, than Horsepower and now Lag? These are all very different things.

Is the TipS different from the Manual? Yes. Is it better/worse? Again, yes - better at some things, worse at others.

Which would you rather drive? This is totally subjective. Try them both, get the one you want!

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

Um..back to the original question...manual 987 my man!!!

Well, let me caveat the below statement...do you have a wife that desires to drive the car, but her coordination is that of a 3 toed sloth? Not that I have one of those ladies per se..... :D