IMS Failure - Need Advice

[Delgesu]

Originally Posted by vijen6

Did those people in that 3 wide line pay to come talk to you or attend your the seminar Jake? I'm guess yes they paid in some way. If not entry fees then at least in travel cost.

For those who have an issue with you, probably don't want to pay to come talk crap man to man. It's not all about 'internet balls'.

Edit: for the record .. I don't have anything against your product .. in fact I do have some of them on my car .. however, I don't exactly like how much of your post most of the time is a teaser into 'arcane' knowledge that shall not be shared ( its actually amusing to me how many 'tuners' share this attitude .. even non porsche ones ) .. I'm sure keep secrets and letting people know you have them is good for business so I guess I can understand why .. maybe one day when I have $20k-$30k for one of your secret sauce engine, I'll also get to learn the secret handshake

Secrets?

If you want Jake's 'secrets', take his class. I'm sure he'll be more than be happy to educate you from knowledge that he's acquired over the years. But you'll have to pay for his class, and so you should!

Im a long time lurker, newbie poster, and I have no affiliation with flat 6.

It just irks me when people feel that they are entitled to get intellectual property for free.

[vijen6]

In my post I did mention "I'm sure keep secrets and letting people know you have them is good for business so I guess I can understand why" but I guess people didn't read that part.

I perfectly understand why Jake keeps his secrets. Its good business. The teases that he post on numerous other thread without providing actual concrete answer is also good business. Though that is annoying to me as someone searching for answer to certain questions, I completely understand it, and don't fault him for being a business man.

However, its not what Jake leaves out and keep secret that annoys me most. Its the way he phrase certain things. For example the 60 minute thing ..

"Have any idea what would happen to the value of your car and everyone else's if the story hit 60 minutes? They'd blow it up like the Volvo story, the Jeep CJ5 story and all the others and the prices of the cars would all plummet to the point where you couldn't give them away.. They are the media and they will do anything to create the drama that excites their ratings- they don't give a single damn about you, me, Porsche or anything else."

To me that sounds like he's saying hey, I'm actually doing you guys a favor by hiding your dirty laundry so be grateful, but that's not quite true. His website already makes it clear to anyone that can google re: the severity of this issue in our car. So basically, the way I see it, Jake is okay with telling everyone on the interweb re: our IMS issue, but telling 60 minutes is going to kill our resell price. I would argue that the internet has a bigger audience than 60 minutes so he's not doing us any real favor.

Anyways, like I said, he's not the only tuner I've seen on forums with this 'quirk', so maybe its a flaw that comes along with 'genius'. Perhaps its even me mis-reading his intentions since sarcasm and tones don't translate well to text all the time.

I've bought products from him in the past and probably will continue to buy them if / when I need it. Maybe even take his engine rebuilding class if / when I can afford to. However, I'll most likely also continue to roll my eyes when I read his future posts on this forum.

[Jake Raby]

To me that sounds like he's saying hey, I'm actually doing you guys a favor by hiding your dirty laundry so be grateful, but that's not quite true. His website already makes it clear to anyone that can google re: the severity of this issue in our car. So basically, the way I see it, Jake is okay with telling everyone on the interweb re: our IMS issue, but telling 60 minutes is going to kill our resell price. I would argue that the internet has a bigger audience than 60 minutes so he's not doing us any real favor.

You sure are concerned with trying to figure me out~

That said the pictures of failed components on my site is less than 20, the total of my database of component pics is over 11,000.

If I wanted to obliterate these vehicles and engines I'd post every single one of them.
Want a sample? Here ya go.


I believe that the major reason most people bust our balls is because they see our businesses flourishing while the rest of the economy is broke and most of them are broke and can't afford to repair their car. They all feel that we took advantage of a niche market. They fail to realize that we see engines from all over the world because we took the time to research and become proficient with these engines when no one else was willing to.

[pothole]

Jake

I don't think anybody sane dismisses the notion that these engines have major engineering problems that lead to premature failure or that your outfit has carved out a significant niche and developed extensive expertise in repairing them (though I would think there's at least one outfit and probably two or three in the UK that would take issue with your characterisation of having a unique status as such).


However, I would suggest there's more to this than people getting upset with you for criticising the engineering of their pride and joy and wanting to stick their heads in the sand / fingers in ears.

There's also a certain level of bombasticness to your posts, extensive blowing of own trumpet and also an impression of being less than forthcoming on occasion. These are just impressions, I make no claim as to the facts.

As it happens, I also disagree that being more forthcoming about the failures would obliterate values or new sales. I doubt it would have much impact at all, personally, and I think you're teetering on the edge of delusions of grandeur, imagining that you hold Porsche second hand values or new sales in the palm of your hand.

Moreover, in my day job, I happen to have interviewed several world leading engineers (not in the automotive industry, by the by), some of whom are borderline household names thanks to their innovative work. What they all shared was a disarming modesty. They had nothing to prove. They were also very willing to entertain contrary views to their own from non experts, even on subjects on which they were probably the world's leading authority, and did so in good spirits no matter how dumb the questions put them (not doubt including my own).

I've read lots of your posts over the last couple of years of owning an M96 car and have to say some of them definitely make me uneasy.