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Old 09-02-2005, 09:17 AM   #1
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No need to PM.

My point in the postings is not to suggest that environmental issues are all bogus and that we can safely ignore any issue. Clearly as a society we haven't done that and will not in the future.

My point was to counteract the absolute doom and gloom perspective adopted by the Greens and parroted by the liberal media.

No improvements are sufficient for this folks, only the next calamity to befall us.

If you go back to the 60s and 70s, ALL of the predicted disasters related to pollution, population, oil reserves being depleted, turned out to be DEAD WRONG!

BTW-my favorite prediction that was on the cover of TIME MAGAZINE I believe in 1990 was that the world was headed for a TOTAL ICE AGE. I remember the cover of the issue, with the globe frozen over.

The funny thing about that issue was that many same forecasters of this ICE AGE are now leading the global warming charge.

Hmm, you'd think that would hurt their credibility wouldn't you?

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Old 09-02-2005, 09:31 AM   #2
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People who say the world is going to end tommorow are not to be believed.
But that doesn't mean that the impact that we've had on this planet in only a couple of generations isn't cause for deep concern.
China's emissions acounted for 1% in 1950. Today it's nearly half of the U.S.
and Equal to Europe. EVERYONE is concernend about China's escalating pollution.
I recently read that Japan's steel industry has offered to help the Chinese to produce less toxic manufacturing methods. I guess they figured out they'll soon be breathing the same dirty air.

Take it from someone that lives in New Jersey where the smell of pollution penetrates through car windows and is nothing short of overwhelming. Sometimes I have to raise the top on the BOxster because the air so bad.
We can do more harm in a short amount of time than anyone realizes. I don't need the Greens to tell me my air is filthy. I live it every day.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:06 AM   #3
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Yes, I grew up in NJ and understand localized issues. Yet, I can tell you that the vast majority of the US has air that you would die for.

My point is simply that progress has been made and will continue to be made.

Ocassionally, I get behind a car from the 60s here in CA. You would not believe how badly that car smells. Well, I do remember that they ALL smelled that way back then.

I simply remark on progress but am not blind for the need to keep going.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:28 AM   #4
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For Christ sake we are all driving a German luxury car that takes premium gas and 9 quarts of oil. Our collective hobby here is to burn fossil fuels for sheer pleasure. Go fill up your cars and quit ********************in.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:46 AM   #5
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986President, I think you're on to something.

When I was a kid, and I got all grouchy and ********************y, my mother would give me a tablespoon of caster oil because she was sure I was constipated and that's what caused the attitude.

I'd highly recommend that everyone posting on this thread fill up your Porsche to the brim with nice, expensive premium fuel, drop the top, and take a very long drive this weekend. May I suggest some Santana for the CD player?

Let this be our caster oil and be "good for what ails you"

If you feel guilty doing this, then you probably should go ahead and plan to sell your Porsche and buy one of the econoboxes (preferably a hybrid) that Richard suggested earlier.

I'm keeping my Boxster though, and I'm still keeping the dream alive to swap my 2.5 for a 3.4... which will no doubt be a bigger fuel hog and produce more fumes.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:40 AM   #6
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BTW- I am about to hop into a C5 Corvette, pull out the Targa roof and take a drive up the Coast Highway. I feel quite virtuous, in that the C5 will get about 28MPG on the Highway and a remarkable 21 just putting around La Costa, CA.

Seriously, I have not issue with using gasoline. At $3.29 I am aware of not wasting it, as this is some expensive stuff. And, I can count on the price varying quite a bit, just like it has all my life.

Let the Good Times roll!
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:14 PM   #7
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If gas were up to 4 bucks a gallon, i'm sure alot of people including myself wouldn't care. I'd still buy it, the higher the better. i want all suvs and big a$$ pickup trucks to be sold. not only do they get in the way but dirty the air. this is the best thing to happen to america in a long long time, the very best thing to happen is the strict emmissions test coming to effect next month. that will keep all the stinkers off the road as well.
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