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Old 05-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #1
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Seriously? I see a post from Johnny about "wax recommendations" and its REALLY about car wax?

You know you've been under the influence of Johnny when you you're thinking of bikini waxes instead of car waxes when you're on a car forum.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:48 AM   #2
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Zymol is NOT a "cleaning wax"

Kenny, I need to correct a misapprehension of yours. While Zymol has made a "cleaner wax" (for marketing to people looking for a quick one-step solution) they are clearly labeled that. Traditional Zymol waxes (like Glasur, made specifically for Porsche finishes) contain NO abrasives, and are not cleaner waxes.

Johnny, it is important to understand that most paste waxes (Turtle Wax, Simonize, etc.) do contain a small amount of abrasives, and because it is only a small amount, they don't work very well and can leave swirl marks. I prefer to separate the processes depending upon what my finish needs. My full routine in early Spring starts with using dish detergent to remove any old wax (and this is the ONLY time I use dish detergent!), clay-barring to remove embedded contaminants, and a polish like Safe-Cut to create the smoothest possible surface. I will then apply a wax-only product like Zymol Glasur.

While Zymol applied to a smooth surface will last for months, I enjoy waxing my car, so I will re-apply Zymol every 4--6 weeks during the summer.

If you really only want something quick and easy, I can recommend a synthetic like Turtle Wax's "Ice" product. I have torture-tested this on my wife's car (which I DON'T enjoy waxing), and the top of an air-conditioning compressor outside my house. It's easy to apply and buff off, and will bead water for a year or more.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:43 AM   #3
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Kenny, I need to correct a misapprehension of yours. While Zymol has made a "cleaner wax" (for marketing to people looking for a quick one-step solution) they are clearly labeled that. Traditional Zymol waxes (like Glasur, made specifically for Porsche finishes) contain NO abrasives, and are not cleaner waxes.

Johnny, it is important to understand that most paste waxes (Turtle Wax, Simonize, etc.) do contain a small amount of abrasives, and because it is only a small amount, they don't work very well and can leave swirl marks. I prefer to separate the processes depending upon what my finish needs. My full routine in early Spring starts with using dish detergent to remove any old wax (and this is the ONLY time I use dish detergent!), clay-barring to remove embedded contaminants, and a polish like Safe-Cut to create the smoothest possible surface. I will then apply a wax-only product like Zymol Glasur.

While Zymol applied to a smooth surface will last for months, I enjoy waxing my car, so I will re-apply Zymol every 4--6 weeks during the summer.

If you really only want something quick and easy, I can recommend a synthetic like Turtle Wax's "Ice" product. I have torture-tested this on my wife's car (which I DON'T enjoy waxing), and the top of an air-conditioning compressor outside my house. It's easy to apply and buff off, and will bead water for a year or more.
It's not that I'm looking for something that's easy to use, but rather I'm looking for the product that's right for my situation . My vehicle is free of road deposits and debris, as well as surface scratches or lines . With that said, it doesn't seem like I need a cleaner wax, polish or clay bar . In fact, I should probably stay away from those types of products and use only a wax, sealant or glaze . Sound right ?
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:55 AM   #4
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Not in my opinion, the clay bar is a good call after a couple years of road use, you will be amazed at what it removes and it does not harm the clear coat. Do you have a porter cable or are you going "danielson" on it? I've seen the pics you keep it tidy a carnuba wax is a great call for protection and shine. I like the blackfire because it has micro abrasives safe for CC that break down as you polish, the two step with PC is the ultimate shine bar none.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:40 AM   #5
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I am fond of 3M performance finish...

it is a paint sealant so it lasts a long time...typically a few months. Traditional carnauba based waxes do provide a lot of shine but are quickly consumed by UV exposure so the effect may be only a few days to a week or so. The 3m product does not dry/haze like most waxes do which makes it really easy to apply to the entire vehicle before coming back and wiping it off. I have applied P21S over the 3m product as well for maximum bling but it really is not necessary.
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Says 4-6 months don't know about that for the number of washes we do, especially given out oil spitting powerplants.

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