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Old 03-16-2012, 08:09 AM   #1
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I got no dog in this fight, I'm simply stating that the idea that thirty six times in a row you pulverized people so effectively that you never had a hiccup unexpected and lost money on these cars you flip still has an aroma.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #2
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I must say that I like buying from a person I like and trust. I am not being judgemental of anybody here. I ended up buying a Boxster. I liked the car and understood where the seller was coming from. I did look at a 911 but found the seller creepy. The 911 needed work and I just happened to like the Boxster better.
The seller's personality is very important and can indicate if regular maintenance has been done or not. When I sell a car I have to look hard in the mirror because I like to treat others as I would have them treat me. Yes I know that I have lost my man up card....again!
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I must say that I like buying from a person I like and trust. I am not being judgemental of anybody here. I ended up buying a Boxster. I liked the car and understood where the seller was coming from. I did look at a 911 but found the seller creepy. The 911 needed work and I just happened to like the Boxster better.
The seller's personality is very important and can indicate if regular maintenance has been done or not. When I sell a car I have to look hard in the mirror because I like to treat others as I would have them treat me. Yes I know that I have lost my man up card....again!
maybe the experts can chime in but I find that if you deal with a private seller and the car craps out you're SOL. A dealer, depending on the state, has to guarantee certain things which means they propbably check it out before they low-ball the person trading it in. People often leave a lot of money on the table when trading in cars so that leaves some negotiaing room for the new buyer to come along. Often times the dealer is desperate to bring in cash and will simply unload the car at BEP or ship it to some dealer auction venue that deals with excess inventory (Manheim, PA?).
I bought my car with barely 9K miles as a trade in. spotless. The salesman was brand new out college eager to make a sale and the old owner seemed in a hurry to get into a new car. I received a 1 year powertrain warranty and the bank and Ebay (wher it was originally listed) had some deal going where I got an additional disount. None of this would have happened going through a nice friendly private owner who could have turned into a major a-hole if thigns went sour after the sale "yeah so the engine blew up? too bad". Not to mention everyone thinks they're Porsche is worth 20% more than it actually ever is. Myself included.
With the dealer CPO and trade-ins there is this much emotional attachment: 0
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I got no dog in this fight, I'm simply stating that the idea that thirty six times in a row you pulverized people so effectively that you never had a hiccup unexpected and lost money on these cars you flip still has an aroma.
Ghost I have no Problem with you, I have not pulverized every seller on every car I have bought and I have broke even tons of times on resale but luckily I have not lost any money to date. I have thought many times I was getting a killer deal and run into every surprise known but I have been fortunate and still been able to break even or make some change. For instance the s4 I am getting rid of sat for 5 years and did not run when I picked it up. I figured I could part the car and still make money. I was lucky that one if the ecus was shot and I had one at the shop and after a little work I am now going to do quite well. I am not the best seller, I will drop on price rather quickly but I try and inform the purchaser of everything I know and most cars I have owned I have gone through with a fine tooth comb. I used to be a performance VW and Audi shop owner and was a mechanic for 6 years 3 of which I worked at a Porsche dealer in Aachen. This has saved me multiple times from bad purchases and I am willing to walk any time.

You are right on how people determine loss. Financially I calculate the time driving the car as a gain and my time working on cars is a stress relief for me so my time is not considered.

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