IMS Chronology for prospective buyers

[landrovered]

Originally Posted by fivepointnine

there is something else wrong (driver or maintenance) if a single car has had more than one failure. How do you explain the cars with well north of 100k having no failures?

my question is when did the IMS frenzy REALLY take off?

the 996 guys really dont seem as concerned as the Boxster guys

About the same time the Tick Tick Boom ads came out.

[Burg Boxster]

Originally Posted by landrovered

About the same time the Tick Tick Boom ads came out.

...better have your flame suit buttoned up tightly

[fivepointnine]

Originally Posted by landrovered

About the same time the Tick Tick Boom ads came out.

is that the same time that Boxster values took a nose dive also?

[thstone]

Originally Posted by fivepointnine

is that the same time that Boxster values took a nose dive also?

Boxster values are fairly consistent with other luxury cars that sold for similar prices new. Take my 2002 BMW X5 for example; $60K new and 10 years/100,000 miles later its worth about the same as a 2002 Boxster with similar mileage.

What drove Boxster (and BMW X5) prices down is simply the large number that were sold. Fast forward 10 years and now there is a glut on the market of used, good condition cars which causes the price to drop.

This is different from the 993 and previous 911 air cooled models that never sold nearly as many cars and with the advent of the water cooled engine have acheived somewhat cult status - both of which have tended to keep re-sale prices high.

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Is it possible to buy a 2005 with a double row that can be replaced on the car ?

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by Idaho Red Rocket 3

Is it possible to buy a 2005 with a double row that can be replaced on the car ?

'05 had either a single row or a non-servicable double-row "larger" bearing. the larger can be replaced, but requires removing the shaft from the engine and sending it in. it can not be done in-place.

[ProjectM96]

So how much does this shop charge for the IMS Upgrade in Newark, NJ?

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by ProjectM96

So how much does this shop charge for the IMS Upgrade in Newark, NJ?

For this neck of the woods their hourly labor rate is probably the lowest I know of (under $100) and they are very experienced. I would give them a call to see how many hours you are looking at. I also did the RMS swap and had the rear axle boots replaced since both were torn.
You could probably get a cab from the Newark train station to Belleville (it's north of Newark) for $25 then hop onto the Acela if you were dropping the car off by yourself.
tip: Call Belleville Taxi from the train station and tell them to pick you up a the entrance to the hotel directly across the street. Don't take the cabs at the train, you'll pay much more.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by fivepointnine

is that the same time that Boxster values took a nose dive also?

The values took a dive when the credit market locked up in 2009. Before then values were holding up pretty well despite the IMS issue being well known.
So it was more the economy that took what I calculated to be single digit drops in resale value to double digits and not the IMS. Most buyers during that drop didn't know IMS from IBS.
By the way, if you really want to look at nose dives look at the 996 Carrera prices in 2009. Some fell by as much 40% in a single year. It looks like people were trying to get out of what was left of those Carrera monthly payments in a hurry. I met a guy this weekened who showed me his 996 Turbo that he was able to score in the high 20's in 2009. The seller couldn't get cash for a home or business loan so he unloaded the Turbo at a screaming deal.