What would Shakespeare Say ?

[Johnny Danger]

What would Shakespeare say regarding the IMS issue ?

To replace ... or not to replace ... that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubled IMS bearings. And by opposing it ? To die: to sleep; No more; and by a sleep to say we end ; The heart-ache of IMS failure .

[Jager]

What would Ferdinand Porsche say??

Ferdinand Porsche Quotes - BrainyQuote

[Stroked & Blown]

Clearly, this has been at the top of your mind for a while.

Question to ask yourself - is the ~$2k worth regaining (some of) your sanity?

[madmods]

He'd think something along that "Better three hours too soon than a minute too late."

lollll

[madmods]

And my Indy would say something along that: "A rebuilt engine is a fraction of the price of a new car, its not about a fixing what's not broken issue, its about making a decision"

[jcb986]

I want some of that weed you are on....

E tu Brut...

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Stroked & Blown

Clearly, this has been at the top of your mind for a while.

Question to ask yourself - is the ~$2k worth regaining (some of) your sanity?

How doth one know this ?

[san rensho]

"Out, damned IMSB! Out, I say!"

[Jaxonalden]

Originally Posted by Jager

What would Ferdinand Porsche say??
Ferdinand Porsche Quotes - BrainyQuote

My guess would be;

1. Find the engineer that came up with this design and ******************** slap him

2. Find the best engineered way to fix the problem

3. Go out and repair the cars and the damaged reputation they've done to his name

[milliemax]

Originally Posted by Jager

What would Ferdinand Porsche say??

Ferdinand Porsche Quotes - BrainyQuote

Ferdinand's favorite Porsche ? Do you know ?

[Boxster Nut]

I say if it's broke just fix it!:dance:

[Steve Tinker]

He who hesitates is lost......

[landrovered]

Tis a sad indictment indeed that we are haunted every day and every night by the oily black demons, the hell hounds of all bearingdom, nay tis not the jabberwocke nor Krakken we fear, it doth not drink our blood nor feast upon our bones but instead inflicts a far more brutal punishment for it steals the very joy away from us that we dost employ upon the track and road and its name dost strike fear into the hearts of mid level managers across the globe...I, M, S Bearing...

[Ghostrider 310]

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden

My guess would be;

1. Find the engineer that came up with this design and ******************** slap him

2. Find the best engineered way to fix the problem

3. Go out and repair the cars and the damaged reputation they've done to his name

My guess would be the engineers told management the design was weak. The true people to find and fry are the bean counters at the company. Bring each unit to market at xyz price, even if that means ignoring the engineers and crossing fingers. Building anything the best way and keeping it profitable seldom have a nexus. As for the numbers thread, regardless of how many engines blew up, when one does and a customer complains about it, stonewalling is a poor response, their customer care must be run by Heinrich Himmler.

PS To rip Robin W, Look, your IMS like a testicle hangs low in the sky. If I still had my 986 I'd just replace the IMS every clutch job.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by landrovered

Tis a sad indictment indeed that we are haunted every day and every night by the oily black demons, the hell hounds of all bearingdom, nay tis not the jabberwocke nor Krakken we fear, it doth not drink our blood nor feast upon our bones but instead inflicts a far more brutal punishment for it steals the very joy away from us that we dost employ upon the track and road and its name dost strike fear into the hearts of mid level managers across the globe...I, M, S Bearing...

We have a bardolator on the forum !

[Jaxonalden]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310;278716 My guess would be[I

the engineers told management the design was weak[/I]. The true people to find and fry are the bean counters at the company. Bring each unit to market at xyz price, even if that means ignoring the engineers and crossing fingers. Building anything the best way and keeping it profitable seldom have a nexus. As for the numbers thread, regardless of how many engines blew up, when one does and a customer complains about it, stonewalling is a poor response, their customer care must be run by Heinrich Himmler.

PS To rip Robin W, Look, your IMS like a testicle hangs low in the sky. If I still had my 986 I'd just replace the IMS every clutch job.

Ghostrider,

The bean counters didn't design the bearing, the engineers did! They should have done their stress analysis to come up with the MTBF (mean time between failure) models. Those models would have produced numbers showing an inferior design through premature breakdown and failure. At that time only the prototypes would have been produced and cost would have been low to redesign.

I would think a roller bearing over a ball bearing to distribute all the stress and handle the high speeds the IMS encounters. Think about it, the surface (and pin point pressure) of a ball bearing in contact with the race vs. the surface of a cylindrical bearing and the distribution it can achieve...duh!

[DFW02S]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

What would Shakespeare say regarding the IMS issue ?

....

Nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.

[Ghostrider 310]

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden

Ghostrider,

The bean counters didn't design the bearing, the engineers did! They should have done their stress analysis to come up with the MTBF (mean time between failure) models. Those models would have produced numbers showing an inferior design through premature breakdown and failure. At that time only the prototypes would have been produced and cost would have been low to redesign.

I would think a roller bearing over a ball bearing to distribute all the stress and handle the high speeds the IMS encounters. Think about it, the surface (and pin point pressure) of a ball bearing in contact with the race vs. the surface of a cylindrical bearing and the distribution it can achieve...duh!

Jax,

I worked on design teams in the fortune 100. I saw how it worked across business lines and at three powerhouse companies during my career. Profit is always the main objective, profit improvement as well. Many were the times millions was spent correctly in application of a beautiful modification. Just as many times, correct fixes and accurate predictions of imminent failure before launch were ignored in the classic American business paradigm of "damn the glitches, we'll repair them in the field on the fly and bless them as ongoing modifications". It was also frequently true that 100% remedies were avoided in cost containment, with those very decisions being made by the holders of the purse.

[Jaxonalden]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

Jax,

I worked on design teams in the fortune 100. I saw how it worked across business lines and at three powerhouse companies during my career. Profit is always the main objective, profit improvement as well. Many were the times millions was spent correctly in application of a beautiful modification. Just as many times, correct fixes and accurate predictions of imminent failure before launch were ignored in the classic American business paradigm of "damn the glitches, we'll repair them in the field on the fly and bless them as ongoing modifications". It was also frequently true that 100% remedies were avoided in cost containment, with those very decisions being made by the holders of the purse.

So is that the real reason American quality and the state of the economy is the way it is? Not spending the extra money it takes to get it right?

Bad reputations take years to repair, and sometimes thats not long enough.

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by Jager

What would Ferdinand Porsche say??

he'd say what he said: "The perfect racing car crosses the finish line first and subsequently falls into its component parts."