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Old 01-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #21
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i've often thought about building a poor man's yellowbird. it's 'just' a modified 964 (currently second cheapest of the 911's after the 996). you could do all the standard lightening mods (seats, RS carpet and door cards, sound insulation, lexan, etc.) safety mods (cage, harness, etc.) suspension (964 already has coil-overs) and brakes easily enough, and can buy knock-off ruf front bumpers, etc., everywhere (note the yellowbird didn't have flares to reduce aerodynamic drag and maximise top speed).

regarding the engine, i am of the understanding there were two versions; a ctr 1 and ctr 2. one had a completely built engine, but the other was built on a stock engine. this is cool, as the higher compression of a n/a engine gives you more lower rpm torque and smooths-out the lag from a big turbo(s). i think they tucked the intercoolers in the rear wheel wells like the 959. anyways, there's lots of threads on the pelican turbo forum on how to turbo a n/a aircooled engine on the cheap, so do-able.
The CTR (1) is based on the pre 964 chassis. You can visually tell by the long, floor mounted shift lever.

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:58 AM   #22
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If I said I'd rather buy a condo I guess you wouldn't get that either.....
Deflection. That's fine with me.
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ok, and makes sense as the 911 chassis is fundamentally lighter than the 964 (no transmission tunnel for the awd). that also helps with my vague remembrance that the stock engine ruf turbo'd was a 3.2, but again i was being lazy and didn't refresh my memory (uhh ... wiki is still down, right ...?). personally, i find the 964 (and ruf) body style (bumpers) 'heavy' and would rather start with a pre-89 base car. in fact, one of my dream cars is a 3.2 carrera with the wide body option, sunroof delete and turbo charger with mild boost - what a car!!!
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ok, and makes sense as the 911 chassis is fundamentally lighter than the 964 (no transmission tunnel for the awd). that also helps with my vague remembrance that the stock engine ruf turbo'd was a 3.2, but again i was being lazy and didn't refresh my memory (uhh ... wiki is still down, right ...?). personally, i find the 964 (and ruf) body style (bumpers) 'heavy' and would rather start with a pre-89 base car. in fact, one of my dream cars is a 3.2 carrera with the wide body option, sunroof delete and turbo charger with mild boost - what a car!!!
I am with you on the pre 89.....classic Porsche lines right in the middle of old and new. Almost had one long before the box...just missed it!
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #25
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Deflection. That's fine with me.

Nope, wrong again, I simply don't like the car, I'd rather have the 911T back my brother owned in the seventies. However, that body style is played and again at that price you might be able to get a GT Street RS, much cooler ride IMO. Given that neither are in my shopping range it's moot, I truly would buy a Boxster and a house in Florida on the beach first...

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Old 01-19-2012, 12:54 PM   #26
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Nope, wrong again, I simply don't like the car, I'd rather have the 911T back my brother owned in the seventies. However, that body style is played and again at that price you might be able to get a GT Street RS, much cooler ride IMO. Given that neither are in my shopping range it's moot, I truly would buy a Boxster and a house in Florida on the beach first...
So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
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Scuderia
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911T
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GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
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Boxster and a house in Florida

That's not deflecting?
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i'd like to add guns and canned food to that list; i'm really afraid of the pending zombie holocaust.
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:06 PM   #28
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So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
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Scuderia
or
Condo
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911T
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GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
or
Boxster and a house in Florida



or

The Dangermobile
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begs the question: how much canned food can you fit in the trunk of the Dangermobile vs a Scuderia vs a condo in Florida? Do condos have trunks?
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Would you take payments?
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Would you take payments?
Only with off-shore funds .
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begs the question: how much canned food can you fit in the trunk of the Dangermobile vs a Scuderia vs a condo in Florida? Do condos have trunks?
It depends on how many bodies there are in the trunk .
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #34
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So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
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Scuderia
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Condo
or
911T
or
GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
or
Boxster and a house in Florida



or

The Dangermobile

You guys bored? Hey check it, I can't walk, sit or stand on my own schedule, all of you already won whatever competition you perceive we are in. As for the car, I get it, if it had a vage you would screw it, got it. After all, that would be the only way you could conclude that what I'm looking at will still trail it and since we are two people in anonymity, who effing cares anyhow?

I'm done with the subject.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:21 PM   #35
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You guys bored?
I am, snowed in for 3 days. Add that with the fact that I like to argue...
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:02 PM   #36
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Apparently winter is making everyone like to argue. I'm bored with my condition, I can't understand how anyone healthy likes posting so much. I'd love to go skiing, winter hiking, snowmobiling any of that stuff.
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I'm not bored and I'm not snowed in (it was 68F here today) and I don't particularly like to argue.

But I do like to talk about Porsche's and this one was off the chart! I can't get enough of that video.
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Wasn't able to find it but I thought there was one of the same car running the ring with video taken from a helicopter showing some mind boggling power slides. Same car with some footage taken outside of the cockpit:

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The driving experience would be so different from a 996 GT2, you wouldn't even think they were related cars. 600 pound weight
Caterham Vs Porsche GT2 - Nurburgring '09 - YouTube
If that "driving experience" would be worth that price to you, then that's great. If I wanted a different driving experience, i would simply sell my 986 and buy it. For $279,000 I can buy over a dozen cars I would rather have than an old Porsche. I would certainly opt for a 1969 Ferrari Daytona over that P. I would opt for that "driving experience" . To each man his own preference. . And again, I would opt for a much newer twin turbo if I wanted to feel G's. Otherwise, I would drop a TT in my Boxster for 1/10th the price and have "the" driving experience.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:04 PM   #40
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If that "driving experience" would be worth that price to you, then that's great. If I wanted a different driving experience, i would simply sell my 986 and buy it. For $279,000 I can buy over a dozen cars I would rather have than an old Porsche. I would certainly opt for a 1969 Ferrari Daytona over that P. I would opt for that "driving experience" . To each man his own preference. . And again, I would opt for a much newer twin turbo if I wanted to feel G's. Otherwise, I would drop a TT in my Boxster for 1/10th the price and have "the" driving experience.
Not a sports car fan?

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