Porsche ranked no. 2 in long term quality...

[Brucelee]

Cadillac has been improving for quite some time now. VW has been tanking for about the same time.

What are those VW folks thinking?????

[wetstuff]

I think VW and Mercedes both got caught in an electronics trap of european sourcing. They are still buying Telefunken quality whereas Lexus get's it from their asian homeboys who have it well sorted. When a Chrysler is more reliable than a Mercedes - you know there's trouble in D-land.

Jim

[Brucelee]

Indeed!

." When a Chrysler is more reliable than a Mercedes - you know there's trouble in D-land. "

[ho2go]

And yet (if my memory serves me well), VW has scored really well in JD Power's APEAL study for a number of years now. I guess it just goes to show that if your car really stirs some passion in you then you'll probably be able to overlook some otherwise big/annoying problems.

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Cadillac has been improving for quite some time now. VW has been tanking for about the same time.

What are those VW folks thinking?????

[lexuspilot]

My Lexus GS400, owned since new, had battery problems early on. These left us stranded a couple times. We also had a variable valve timing issue which caused it to run way rich and stall. If you gave me a questionaire I would still say it is highly reliable, almost everything works almost all the time. However, my 99 Grand Cherokee never skipped a beat for 100k miles. When I turned it in it had never ever not even had any little thing wrong with it - NOTHING. But when someone says reliable, my Lexus comes to mind.. Weird huh.

That said I would never judge a car by the forums, in that case the are all POS.