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Old 01-08-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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I'm not worried about the IMS (I'll say up front), but after looking into ALL the potential issues with any car as it ages, I decided to call DenverSteve's agent and picked up an extended service warranty. Easy, quick, great coverage, cheaper than 2-3 repairs that many of these could need (top mechanism, window regulators, dripping rear main seal, bearings of course, and all the other non "wear and tear" items). A simple IMS retrofit would cost about the same as this entire policy did, and this covers that and so much more.

The price (for me) is great for peace-of-mind so I (like Tim Tebow ) pulled the trigger. I mentioned Steve Crain's name and he extended the holiday discount, but he wasn't sure how long he could do this. Now, let the revving begin.... or continue.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:26 PM   #3
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Intriguing. I started looking at older Boxsters and found one that I thought was worth taking to a mechanic for an inspection. I looked up the local Porsche mechanic and stopped by one afternoon to arrange the inspection.

The gentleman who owned the shop was shall we say a grizzled veteran of repairing Porsches. When I asked if it was possible to make an appointment to inspect a Boxster he flat refused to do it.

He said, "I'll save you the money, don't buy a used Boxster. Their engines are crap. Look out there, I'm fixing two of them now with engines that are bad. The white one is the second time I've replaced the engine. Do you have that kind of money to lose? If you want to buy a Porsche get a 911 with an air cooled engine, those are worth fixing up. That or get a new one with a warranty."

Needless to say I was shocked, I appreciated his candor but what a major buzz kill. I even tried a second time during our conversation to get him to look at the car and he flat out refused.

After reading all the point / counterpoints here I think I have an idea of what he's up against as a used Porsche mechanic.

Truly one of the strangest experiences I've had at a mechanic and I've had several over the years. My plan now is to wait for the new Boxster to come out this summer.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:46 PM   #4
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Intriguing. I started looking at older Boxsters and found one that I thought was worth taking to a mechanic for an inspection. I looked up the local Porsche mechanic and stopped by one afternoon to arrange the inspection.

The gentleman who owned the shop was shall we say a grizzled veteran of repairing Porsches. When I asked if it was possible to make an appointment to inspect a Boxster he flat refused to do it.

He said, "I'll save you the money, don't buy a used Boxster. Their engines are crap. Look out there, I'm fixing two of them now with engines that are bad. The white one is the second time I've replaced the engine. Do you have that kind of money to lose? If you want to buy a Porsche get a 911 with an air cooled engine, those are worth fixing up. That or get a new one with a warranty."

Needless to say I was shocked, I appreciated his candor but what a major buzz kill. I even tried a second time during our conversation to get him to look at the car and he flat out refused.




After reading all the point / counterpoints here I think I have an idea of what he's up against as a used Porsche mechanic.

Truly one of the strangest experiences I've had at a mechanic and I've had several over the years. My plan now is to wait for the new Boxster to come out this summer.
Listen, some of these Porsche mechanics are so tightly wound and persnickety they could put Mary Poppins "under the carpet" . Certain that it is, there's a real concern regarding the M96 engine (and M97) with regard to IMS failure. However, there are remedies out there to solve this problem . Ultimately, the boxster is an exciting vehicle to own . And, I would not let some old curmudgeon put a dampener on your plans .
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:16 AM   #5
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Intriguing. I started looking at older Boxsters and found one that I thought was worth taking to a mechanic for an inspection. I looked up the local Porsche mechanic and stopped by one afternoon to arrange the inspection.

The gentleman who owned the shop was shall we say a grizzled veteran of repairing Porsches. When I asked if it was possible to make an appointment to inspect a Boxster he flat refused to do it.

He said, "I'll save you the money, don't buy a used Boxster. Their engines are crap. Look out there, I'm fixing two of them now with engines that are bad. The white one is the second time I've replaced the engine. Do you have that kind of money to lose? If you want to buy a Porsche get a 911 with an air cooled engine, those are worth fixing up. That or get a new one with a warranty."

Needless to say I was shocked, I appreciated his candor but what a major buzz kill. I even tried a second time during our conversation to get him to look at the car and he flat out refused.

After reading all the point / counterpoints here I think I have an idea of what he's up against as a used Porsche mechanic.

Truly one of the strangest experiences I've had at a mechanic and I've had several over the years. My plan now is to wait for the new Boxster to come out this summer.
This is only one person's opinion. I bought my 2001 Boxster with eyes wide open and did lots of research. So it's either like u do and buy a new one(expensive) or like me, buy a used one and put $$ into it(expensive too). I have had installed the IMS guardian though.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:19 AM   #6
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I had a deal, the sales rep should have given me an opportunity to match if he got a higher bid or asked for a grand yesterday; I would have gladly given it to him. That would have been the ethical approach. Now I'm just pissed off because this car was as if I ordered it myself in terms of how it was configured and it only had 2,200 on it.
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I had a deal, the sales rep should have given me an opportunity to match if he got a higher bid or asked for a grand yesterday; I would have gladly given it to him. That would have been the ethical approach. Now I'm just pissed off because this car was as if I ordered it myself in terms of how it was configured and it only had 2,200 on it.
With all due respect, you were dealing with a used car salesman, what did you expect?. While there are some good ones out there they are generally the slime of the sales profession (which I am in). Time to get over it and move on, anything else is kicking a dead horse IMO.

P.S. I experienced something VERY similar 5 years back on a 911 Cab, and I had money down. Luckily I got it back and yes I was furious but realized complaining was pointless.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:53 AM   #8
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I hear ya coreseller, I'm off the podium. Ethics is the decision of individuals. There was a time when medical x-ray film was about 1,200 a case. It was easy to order as start up product and a few bad apples would over order and sell it back to the dealers. As you can imagine it ranged into the thousands in extra cash. Another manager was fired for outfitting his house with furniture by building it into getting the office done. So what did I expect? The same vanishing metrics of ethics you detailed. No matter what, I'm glad I was the guy who didn't steal film. I'm proud to have been the guy who washed his hands between every patient, used proper sterile techniques, protected the health of everyone like they were my own family. It's how I was raised. In my family whether you were scouping dog poo or selling used cars you did it with pride.
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