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Old 06-22-2011, 02:26 AM   #1
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Would it be not more sensible to blame the MANUFACTURERS?! Come on guys....

I still believe that the majority of Porsche owners can make a decent judgement as to when it is safe to push their cars on public roads.

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Old 06-22-2011, 05:06 AM   #2
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I stand by my inexcusable comment.

No one here is an angel, all of us have to some extent broken Traffic laws. The question here is the order of magnitude. 150 miles an hour on public roads leaves no margin of error. Any innocent bystander who you may have accidentally overlooked, and we all make mistakes, should not have to suffer for your ego boosting play.

Even if you're willing to die doing something stupid as driving double the posted limit in a straight line, and have no regard for the friends and family may leave behind, gives some thought to the time and cost to have the police and emergency workers scrape you off the pavement.

Far too often people forget that driving is a privilege, one we take it far too lightly here in North America. We forget to be courteous drivers, we don't think or plan for emergencies, and we do nothing to ensure that our skills behind the wheel are more than barely adequate.

In my opinion driving a Porsche doesn't entitle us to use the roads as a personal playground. Rather as someone who obviously values driving as more than a basic chore to get from A to B we should be held to a higher standard. We should set the tone on the roads. We should as a group be more aware, more skilled, and more courteous than those around us. We love driving, and be it on a race track, or driving to the corner store should we not display skills well above the norm.

Just my thoughts.....
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:50 AM   #3
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I stand by my inexcusable comment.

No one here is an angel, all of us have to some extent broken Traffic laws. The question here is the order of magnitude. 150 miles an hour on public roads leaves no margin of error. Any innocent bystander who you may have accidentally overlooked, and we all make mistakes, should not have to suffer for your ego boosting play.

Even if you're willing to die doing something stupid as driving double the posted limit in a straight line, and have no regard for the friends and family may leave behind, gives some thought to the time and cost to have the police and emergency workers scrape you off the pavement.

Far too often people forget that driving is a privilege, one we take it far too lightly here in North America. We forget to be courteous drivers, we don't think or plan for emergencies, and we do nothing to ensure that our skills behind the wheel are more than barely adequate.

In my opinion driving a Porsche doesn't entitle us to use the roads as a personal playground. Rather as someone who obviously values driving as more than a basic chore to get from A to B we should be held to a higher standard. We should set the tone on the roads. We should as a group be more aware, more skilled, and more courteous than those around us. We love driving, and be it on a race track, or driving to the corner store should we not display skills well above the norm.

Just my thoughts.....
People drive these cars 140MPH+ every day in Europe in heavy traffic, without being bashed publicly. Just because we live in the proverbial nanny state doesn't mean anyone who makes an informed decision as to blowing the soot out of our cars on an open road is acting irresponsibly. AS to degree, you're breaking the law if you're doing 66 in a 65. If you are being safe there is no difference in the 66 or the 146. The only difference in us and our German counter parts is the speed laws.
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:22 AM   #4
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Yea, but in Europe, there are other cars doing 140 around you
If you're the lone ranger on the highway doing 140 in traffic, you'll look like a dick (true story).

I'm all for "driving it as the dr. intended" when the conditions are right, and so far, everyone that has made that argument has preceded it with "when there's no one else around"... basically saying... "if the highway is in the same state as an empty racetrack then.. " well of course! go for it!

...anddddd driving is definitely a privilege.

http://www.duiattorney.com/dui-basics/privilege-to-drive (first sentence)

Can we reinstate the 'inexcusable' statement? Drunk driving is not cool!
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:55 AM   #5
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If you are being safe there is no difference in the 66 or the 146.
Reaction time, being safe or not, is drastically different.
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:15 AM   #6
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Has there been any indication whether he went straight off or backed it into the guardrail.

The pictures of the skid marks I've seen looked really narrow for the size of tires normally on a GT3. If he tried to make that ramp and it swapped ends, the wing probably took over and the car started to fly. Even then the greatest driver in the world could not of saved it.

TMZ has pictures of the hulk...

tmz.com

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Old 06-23-2011, 05:43 PM   #7
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Those TMZ pictures. Wow. There's nothing left of the car at all.
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Old 06-24-2011, 05:47 AM   #8
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Here's a piece Mr. Dunn wrote in 2009, claiming "I’m an amateur driver in the Sports Car Club of America series (SCCA)."

http://www.dailylocal.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4e00e416ce506230685918.txt?viewmode=default
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