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Old 06-21-2011, 06:52 AM   #1
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$400 to tell you to buy a $600 bearing seems kind of redundant.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:08 AM   #2
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$400 to tell you to buy a $600 bearing seems kind of redundant.
$600 is more like ~$2000 after factoring in installation cost. But you're right if someone has the conscience to spend $400 on that you might as well get it fixed.
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Apparently, there's a 150% credit of the Guardian if you use Flat Six to replace your IMS or motor after you purchase and install the thing. So, a $400 purchase now is a $600 credit later... if you can get your car to a suburb of Atlanta. That's a $800 cost for me from Houston to have my car towed there...
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:30 AM   #4
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Apparently, there's a 150% credit of the Guardian if you use Flat Six to replace your IMS or motor after you purchase and install the thing. So, a $400 purchase now is a $600 credit later... if you can get your car to a suburb of Atlanta. That's a $800 cost for me from Houston to have my car towed there...
Exactly, if the cost of the technology required to detect impending failure is so close to the solution, and you're going to have to get it replaced eventually any way, just replace it to begin with and be done with it.
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Exactly, if the cost of the technology required to detect impending failure is so close to the solution, and you're going to have to get it replaced eventually any way, just replace it to begin with and be done with it.
I'll have to +1 that, I think it makes more sense to just get the retrofit done instead of waiting until your car is screaming at you to get it done.

Along with that, what if your bearing/shaft is already on its way out and you perform this modification. Is it immediately going to sense the issues or will it have to wait to see it get even more serious? I guess we'll have to wait for more details next month.

I'm certainly not trying to shut down Jake's products, I'm actually getting the retrofit done soon. It's just that when I see something like this, to me it's like flying circles around the tanker until you hit bingo fuel instead of just fueling up when you reach the tanker. Why tempt fate?
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:49 AM   #6
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At least this will cut down on the amount of hand holding that goes on when the new Boxster owner inevitably learns of the frailties inherent in their new investment/toy.

So it is now...

Spend $400 for a warning light
Spend $800 and DIY
Spend a few grand and let Jake do it for you.
Spend nothing and drive your car knowing that all things in life are temporary and that the 105k on the odo is telling you to not sweat the little things.

The idea is good the "Hot line" is a bad idea, makes the normal service seem second rate although I can understand the profit motive.
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I guessed that this is some form of vibration monitor as used by many maintenance engineers for diagnosing critical bearings on some (very) expensive machinery. It has been used for many years in preventative maintenance and is very cost affective when checking even slight anomolies in rotating machinery.
Of course, I could be wrong (again).
My question is will you still need the Guardian if you have already fitted the upgraded IMS assembly considering that no failures of the ceramic bearing have been reported by either Flat 6 or LN Engineering??
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