06-19-2011, 05:41 AM
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No right answer to be given , but the one that works for you. However for 19K you can find the same car with noticeably less mileage and less money. If money isn't the problem then I would look to one of Raby's upgraded engines so atleast you'll get a power boost and a engine that has had the trouble spots addresses somewhat and not just a Porsche rebuild with the exact same potential failure. Just some thoughts.
Good Luck
Todd.
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06-19-2011, 07:12 AM
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Thanks for the feed back.
What I was hoping to get from this car was to be able to commute to work in it for about another year, 50mi per day, and then give it to my son when he turns 16 next summer. He'd get a cheap (hopefully) car that looks very nice. I'd get a new car then. So I am looking for the cheapest option to keep it running. I guess my cut off would be about $10K but half of that would be more palatable.
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06-19-2011, 08:19 AM
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Todd, I feel your pain. I've been struggling with the same decision since my 01 blew in Oct.
The cheapest way out is a used motor, but if one goes that route the "while you're in there" costs can add up quickly. (AOS, clutch, flywheel, water pump, rollers, motor mount, RMS, Jakes IMS, coolant tank, hoses, etc can easily cost as much as the used motor).
Here's a quote I obtained for just the motor delivered to my shop.
There is a core charge on the engines so if you decide to go with an engine that is not your original, you will not be able to have your core charge refunded. Here are some prices to give you an idea:
2.7 motor $12,690 with a core charge of $3,333
3.2 motor $12,690 with a core charge of $2,620
3.4 motor $11,160 with a core charge of $6,765
3.6 motor with a power kit $15,415 with a core charge of $3,300
Shipping an engine would vary on some options but should be around the $250-$300 range.
Since we are a Porsche dealership, these are genuine factory Porsche parts.
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2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
Last edited by Paul; 06-19-2011 at 08:27 AM.
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06-19-2011, 12:13 PM
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I'm still trying to come to grips with this. So when there are metal bits of the engine showing up in the oil filter, is it a 100% (or 90% or whatever) certainty the engine is ruined beyond repair and will need to be replaced? I need to decide if I am going to get the car towed to an independent mechanic or a salvage yard.
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06-19-2011, 12:44 PM
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From your posts so far, the engine is totaled. To make sure you could have a compression test done. I suspect you will have 0 in all cylinders.
These cars have value even with a blown motor, if you decide not to fix it, I suggest you put it on eBay or Craigslist.
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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06-19-2011, 12:46 PM
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Most likely, the problem is serious; the only way you are going to know for sure is to have someone that knows what they are doing pull the sump cover and take a look. You don't find metal in the oil filters of health motors.....
If the engine is toast, the last place I would go for another one is a dealer. You should be placing a call to Jake Raby; he has everything from warmed over stock engines to full tilt race motors, the later of which sell for about the same as an OEM rebuilt motor. He has a program to pull and replace the problem parts on used but serviceable engines, like the IMS (which is probably what took yours out) and offers some level of warranty as well.
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06-19-2011, 01:15 PM
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They did say the motor would start but it was misfiring and they thought likely to seize up any second.
It's just hard for me to fathom that the engine can't be fixed for a few thousand dollars, but then my knowledge of car engines is minuscule.
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06-19-2011, 01:29 PM
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if the motor could be rebuilt, the labor alone would be more than a few thousand.
The cheapest way......ebay has running motors for 3-5K. buy it, pull yours drop another in.
Then trade it in and be honest about the motor.
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06-19-2011, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
Todd, I feel your pain. I've been struggling with the same decision since my 01 blew in Oct.
The cheapest way out is a used motor, but if one goes that route the "while you're in there" costs can add up quickly. (AOS, clutch, flywheel, water pump, rollers, motor mount, RMS, Jakes IMS, coolant tank, hoses, etc can easily cost as much as the used motor).
Here's a quote I obtained for just the motor delivered to my shop.
There is a core charge on the engines so if you decide to go with an engine that is not your original, you will not be able to have your core charge refunded. Here are some prices to give you an idea:
2.7 motor $12,690 with a core charge of $3,333
3.2 motor $12,690 with a core charge of $2,620
3.4 motor $11,160 with a core charge of $6,765
3.6 motor with a power kit $15,415 with a core charge of $3,300
Shipping an engine would vary on some options but should be around the $250-$300 range.
Since we are a Porsche dealership, these are genuine factory Porsche parts.
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Those are prices for rebuilt engines? Rebuilt with the extras you mention at the top?
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06-19-2011, 04:52 PM
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Porsche "Purist"
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfncpa
Those are prices for rebuilt engines? Rebuilt with the extras you mention at the top?
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They are Porsche crate motors ready to lift into the car. They do not include at least the flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate or any of the cooling hoses.
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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