03-06-2011, 01:03 PM
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The saga continues! "New" engine blew up!
The car was running great after I installed the replacement flywheel that Aasco sent me. I had also installed the Accusump and drove the car 40 or 50 miles around town last weekend. Everything seemed perfect. Loaded the car up for the DE at Barber this weekend. Teched out ok and I drove 4 or 5 "parade" laps to get re-familiarized with the track. Everything seemed fine. Went out with my run group and did 2 pace laps....first green flag lap and I let a couple of cars go by as I wanted to bring it up to speed slowly. Got up to about 90mph on the first straight away, through the first turn and up the hill into the next straight, pressed the clutch for the hairpin, down shifted to 2nd and the dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree. The engine was dead, popped the clutch to restart, powered through the next straight.....kept it running through the next turns, but noticed a rattle on the subsequent straights. Backed out of it and pointed everyone by. Gave it a little more gas to get off the track and now it is a definite clatter. Limped it off the track...coasted into pits. Started it one more time with my helmet off....sounded like a sack full of wrenches! Pushed it onto the trailer and drove home! FUN!
Anyone know of any good basket weaving classes?
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03-06-2011, 01:15 PM
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sorry! i had a similar experience. trying to save $10k to get "Helga" back on the road.
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03-06-2011, 02:28 PM
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Carnut
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Oh no! What might it be???? Clutch related?
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03-06-2011, 03:57 PM
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Sorry to hear that!
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03-06-2011, 04:32 PM
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Have you spoken with Jake Raby? He might be of some help.
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03-06-2011, 04:34 PM
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There seems to be every indication that installing a lightweight flywheel and clutch assembly on these vehicles is like tempting fate . Virtually everyone I know who has gone this route has regretted it . I've done all sorts of mods to my vehicle, however, based on what I've read and been told by others, I've chosen to stay clear of this application !
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03-06-2011, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
There seems to be every indication that installing a lightweight flywheel and clutch assembly on these vehicles is like tempting fate . Virtually everyone I know who has gone this route has regretted it . I've done all sorts of mods to my vehicle, however, based on what I've read and been told by others, I've chosen to stay clear of this application !
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+1, I have read the same thing, are cars do not have harmonic dampeners. The O.M.E fly wheel has dual weight that works as a harmonic dampener, when people install lightweight fly wheels the lovely P.O.S crank shafts breaks.
Sorry and good luck dude.
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03-07-2011, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
There seems to be every indication that installing a lightweight flywheel and clutch assembly on these vehicles is like tempting fate . Virtually everyone I know who has gone this route has regretted it . I've done all sorts of mods to my vehicle, however, based on what I've read and been told by others, I've chosen to stay clear of this application !
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i know PLENTY of people w/ the LWFW who have no issues at all. on GT3's, people have trouble with the front pulley coming loose & there is suspicion with that car of some weird harmonic issues.
with most boxsters & 911's, it's a non issue. just ask anyone who runs a spec boxster.
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03-07-2011, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron in Atlanta
....pressed the clutch for the hairpin, down shifted to 2nd and the dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree.....
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any chance of a type II over-rev here?
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03-07-2011, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by insite
any chance of a type II over-rev here?
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+ 1...
Also the crank seems to be in one piece because the engine does run... unfortunately, with a clanking noise
I am sorry to hear this
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03-07-2011, 10:51 AM
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my guess is that a rod broke & the motor just hasn't siezed yet.
wonder if we can piece together one working motor from the two dead ones in your garage? ;-)
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03-07-2011, 11:14 AM
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Engine Surgeon
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I believe that I may know what has happened here and I am not willing to discuss it online. We have recently uncovered some revealing information that could be applicable to your situation.
I definitely want to see this engine.
The LWFW is more than likely not a problem, that takes time to occur with these engines generally. Like I said, I believe I know what happened.
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Last edited by Jake Raby; 03-07-2011 at 11:21 AM.
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03-07-2011, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Radium King
sounds like it stalled when the clutch was depressed - ecu not able to react to the rapid rpm change associated with the lighter flywheel. so, what happens when you take a m96 from high rpm to off in a corner?
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nothing, really. done it thousands of times. react how, out of curiosity?
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03-09-2011, 12:32 PM
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Engine Surgeon
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Location: Cleveland GA USA
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My idea of what has occurred here is NOT related to the IMS Retrofit.. We have NO issues with ANY IMSR to date of the units that have been sold or tested, a true 100% success.
What I am thinking happened to this engine was gathered when I thought this engine may have been an older reman that was just recently put into service. I have learned a lot about that as of late.
Who knows what happened to it, I'd be happy to help figure out what mode of failure generated this death certificate.
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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03-23-2011, 01:56 PM
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Carnut
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Any updates? Kindly let us know!
TIA
Andy
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