Fleeced! (?)

[02box]

nope, blue eyes. I'm entitled to my opinion which I stated without being nasty.

[extanker]

i bought a 09 cay new because it was time to slow down....i didnt get fleeced on that issue..

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by 02box

I agree. but this thread is about a 2001. mine was a 2002. biggest waste of money I've ever had. I wish I had found this site before I bought my car. my opinion is, if you can't afford one that is under warranty you cetainly can't afford one that isn't.

Your last statement above is spot-on in my opinion and one worth repeating to anyone who will listen. Not an inexpensive, low-maintenance car to keep long-term. Porsche really cut corners on the 986 throughout the model years, but with each year they got a little better. My Porsche tech buddy tells me though that the newer 987's (07 and up) are built much better and aren't nearly as much of a repair hassle as the old ones, but then again they aren't as old either! Time will tell.

02box, you really should sell your boxster soon though. Get rid of it if you think it's the biggest waste of money you've ever spent. Life's too short to drive a sports car at which you shake your fist when you think about it or see it in the garage.

This weekend I will have my little black money-pit at the track for another DE and I will be once again reminded why every replaced part is worth its weight in gold. The 986 is hands-down the best track car ever built (in my not so humble opinion).

[KellyC]

If you're handy, DIY saves a LOT of money...

I've owned my Boxster for only about a month, and I've been educating myself about the car online. I've found there are MANY MANY MANY resources available in terms of how-to articles and websites that give you step-by-step instruction, including big color photos on almost any non-major service.

And I'd call all the things on your list non-major (Brake pads, wheel bearing, window mechanicals...) They are just really expensive if you have a Porsche technician do the work.

[Pat]

It sounds more like $1,000 worth of work if you can do the basics yourself.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

"disposable cars not made to be driven past the warranty"??????

02, you're so full of it. I'll bet your eyes are brown. So you got a lemon - big deal, that doesn't mean that all Porsches are. Every manufacturer has their share of lemons right off the assembly line. If you're going to be that bitter then you should just buy a bus pass and forego car ownership all together.

These are very special cars, and it takes a certain kind of person to own, operate, and appreciate them. We spend bucket loads of money on our cars because it is our hobby and our passion. I don't begrudge a nickel of what I have spent on mine, and I would buy another in a heartbeat.

Please watch your language and your attitude. There is no need for this kind of communication.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by greenandtan

I'm feeling fleeced. So I bought her right at KBB for "excellent" (2001 with 42K miles). I didn't inspect it beforehand because I was over the moon about finding the color I wanted and it came as a dealer trade-in for two lexus'. Guess the guy let it all wait and passed it on.

Came back with $6k worth of work it needs:

window rollers
brake pads (3% left!)
bearing
extremely dirty filters

then all the standard 45000 issues.

any words of consolation or am I just a sucker?

:troll:

Fleeced? It is not the dealer's job to inspect the car on your behalf; that is your job, as in, "let the buyer beware."

That said, this happens all the time, as we guys seem to fall in love with women and cars that we don't fully "inspect."

Hence, the divorce rate and the auto repair business continued success.

Cheer up! This site has the best members on the INET (IMHO) and we will help with info as best as we can.

And, welcome to the club.

[JTP]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

we guys seem to fall in love with women that we don't fully "inspect."

How do we convince our girlfriends they need to have a PPI done before we commit to the relationship?! On the other hand, if this were true what a dream job that would be!

[Brucelee]

Think of the possibliities!

[litteng]

Originally Posted by JTP

How do we convince our girlfriends they need to have a PPI done before we commit to the relationship?! On the other hand, if this were true what a dream job that would be!

I suspect that just like shopping for boxster a testride is more like a date, if you want a PPI spend some time with the girlfriends parents.

the apple never falls far from the tree. Theres you PPI,


----if when she's at home and lets her hair down and she's really ********************y with her parents; bet you she'll be the same when married... guys are no different

i spent enough time with my wife's folks before we got married that i knew what i was getting into, yes she now has put on a few lbs, just like the old bird, but shes' stuck with me over 25 yrs, not trading her in, took to long to train her ... i mean get me trained

[extanker]

Originally Posted by JTP

How do we convince our girlfriends they need to have a PPI done before we commit to the relationship?! On the other hand, if this were true what a dream job that would be!

i spent quite a few years road testing girls,got some hot ones and some really used lemons. now days if i went for a spin i might get vapor lock of the heart and i`m past warranty. not to mention that your dipstick can get a fatal dose of bad oil now days

[mikefocke]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Not an inexpensive, low-maintenance car to keep long-term.

My car is a '01S. 58k miles. I am the third owner and have had the car for 5+ years.

I did a PPI before I bought the car. It told me exactly what I needed and the condition of every part. Cost me $2k to get the car in shape but the car had 42k miles on it and I knew it needed a 45k service and probably brakes so I factored all that into the offering price. When the PPI came back and confirmed all that, I bought the car, added fluids and an alignment to the service to be performed and told them do the 60k service so I'd know where I stood from a preventative maintenance standpoint.

Since then I've averaged about a service incident a year. 3 were for seat belts or airbag lights until they got it right. One was an O2 sensor. One a air leak. One a shifter linkage sensor needed a spray of electronic cleaner. Of those 6, I've gone to the dealer for 4, done one at a local muffler shop, one at an indie. Of those 6, I paid something for only 3!

I also have an '01 Acura and a '02 Honda CRV of about the same mileage. Of the 3 cars, the Porsche has had fewer problems, been cheaper to own/drive/maintain, cost less for the equivalent part (!), and got better mileage. Never left me stranded.

Yes cheaper even though I give it upgrades like PS2 tires and Optima batteries that I don't give the other cars (they do get the best Michelins too but theirs are $400 cheaper).

I do some of my own work, get some done at cheap mechanics or oil change places where I'm essentially paying for the lift time. I buy my parts online and use OEM parts wherever I can (in all the cars that is true) as opposed to Acura/Honda/Porsche labeled parts that are really the same part...just marked up.

My '99 Boxster (totaled after about 5 months) was flawless and cost me no $ over the 5 months beyond the mods I took off after I totaled it.

Are these experiences representative..probably not. I got lucky, do preventative maintenance and pay attention to what my cars tell me. I have a modest set of tools.

My today projects were a last ride before the winter put-away in the Boxster, then clean and condition its leather. For the Acura, I read its codes (none) so I'd know what I was expecting when I visited the dealer next week for it's "maint required" visit.

Just as my experience is a small sample, so Randall's was/is too. My experience/costs could change tomorrow. I hope his does too but for the better.

I'm just one of the few that posts positive experiences.