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Old 06-24-2010, 03:07 PM   #1
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I got a 3k estimate from local Indy shop, that includes clutch, flywheel, IMS, and new RMS
Prices here in seattle are higher.. they charge 140$ an hour.

I'm waiting for my clutch to die first, 2000 base with 72K, 3000$ is 40% of what I paid for the car.. I'm not ready to pay that yet


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are you still on the original clutch? Also, do you have service records to figure out how regularly the previous owner was changing the oil? If the clutch has already been changed once you could probably do just the RMS upgrade for $1100-1200. I figure two hours to drop the trans, two hours to extract the old and install the new IMS, and another two hours to put it all back together...maybe less if its an experienced Porsche specialist willing to negotiate the job for a 'flat fee' so to speak. $140 is nearly a dealer rate! I'm sure there are other shops if you check your local PCA chapter forum.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:13 PM   #2
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$3K is not that bad a price if you start backing out one clutch kit with flywheel, and the IMS unit from the price. Parts alone would account for nearly half of it.........plus not all shops are equipped for or up to speed on pulling the IMS bearing; those that are can charge a bit more for that reason alone.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:33 PM   #3
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Dealership charges 200$ an hour, they wanted 3500$ for clutch only.

Cris German Auto (the indy shop) specializes in Porsches.. he has a lot of them parked there
and 140$ an hour is not that bad..

I have ZERO history on the car, I bought in on a whim (better half agreed to get it instead of Chevy Aveo)

It's most probably original clutch.. but it runs good.. now that I finally changed my engine mount + 60K service.. my little Boxster runs perfect!

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drive to canada. can't speak for vancouver, but victoria dealer is 125 and you could find porsche specialists in van (blitzkrieg and scan) for less.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:48 PM   #5
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drive to canada. can't speak for vancouver, but victoria dealer is 125 and you could find porsche specialists in van (blitzkrieg and scan) for less.
Can you recommend a good and not so pricey shop in Victoria?
I actually was thinking of going up north for better price. We have Microsoft and Boeing close.. so prices are high.

I would do it myself in the garage if I wasn't afraid to screw something up...
and considering I know absolutely nothing about cars.. there is a high chance that I'll break something.

I did plugs, mount, fuel filter and belt though.. and I feel very proud!

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100K miles is very impressive!




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just got mine and have yet to experience a (dis)service with it. The PCA for Western Canada includes you northwestern US types, so look for good info here:

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Speedway Porsche in Victoria is $125/hour. There's the dealers MCL and Weissach in Vanocouver. Scan Automotive and Blitzkrieg Auto in Vancouver are often spoken of in good terms as well. If you come to Vancouver Island make sure you drive Hwy 4 and give you and your car a good scare!

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100K miles is very impressive!
not that it's a boxster, but when i sold the 944 it had over 320k...
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:54 PM   #9
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Is the problem real? Sure it is.
The problem with everyone here is no one knows for sure how many Boxsters had such failure to come up with a real number, percentage wise.
Most of the time you do not see people posting on the Internet how great things are, how their engines are doing great at 40k, 60k, 80k and so on. Most will go and post when things go wrong. That is why you see more posts about bad things that happened than good ones. I do not mean IMS only. Look on the Internet for information about your LCD or Plasma sets. Your bluray players. And so on.
Just to give you some numbers, Porsche delivered its 200,000 Boxster on November, 20, 2006. If we simply play with numbers, the total number of Boxsters sold by now is probably somewhere between 250,000 and 280,000. Out of these how many do you guys think that failed with the IMS? Over 5,000? Under 5,000?
The mechanic that takes care of mine, that worked for Porsche for several years only saw 2 at his shop.
Sure Jake will see more. If he is the specialist on dealing with this issue (before or after it fails) people will come to him. So it is obvious he will see way more than anything else.
For the exact same reason companies come to my company when they need to deploy Remote Access solutions for 50,000 users or more. Not many companies do that.
I am 100% sure that Jake and all the other guys that see IMS failures on a daily basis have NOT seen more than 5,000. Guaranteed. If that is indeed the case, given the production numbers we are probably talking about 1% to 1.5% failures.
Probably several other cars from different brands do have very similar failure rates. The problem is when IMS goes bad, it DOES go REALLY bad. Like get a new engine.
When time comes I will do the RMS/Clutch/IMS in one shot just for the peace of mind. But again, I do know chances are on my side (98% or more) that this will NOT happen to me.

Price for the job:
Where I am, my guy asked me for 6 hours of labor to do it all. $432 as he charges $72 per hour.
Parts you can get all (Clutch Kit, RMS, IMS retrofit) for probably $1400-$1500.
So in my case I can get all done for under $1900. As I know I will be doing all this what I am doing is buying the parts upfront, every month so I do not need to spend all that in one shot. Easier on my wallet and makes the wife think running a Boxster is not that much.

Please Jake and others, do not see my reply as an insult or anything like that. I do appreciate all you guys have done and still do for the Porsche Community out there and I do thank you for that. My take on this, as you could see is very simple. The numbers do show a small percentage of the cars are affected for sure what proves the issue is not widespread (to be widespread we would be talking about at least 25,000 with the problem what everyone probably agrees is not the case). Does this mean it will never happen to you? You have over 98%+ chances on your side.
The bottom line is determining how comfortable you feel about that 1% to 1.5%.

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Old 06-25-2010, 08:22 AM   #10
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Dealership charges 200$ an hour, they wanted 3500$ for clutch only.

Cris German Auto (the indy shop) specializes in Porsches.. he has a lot of them parked there
and 140$ an hour is not that bad..

I have ZERO history on the car, I bought in on a whim (better half agreed to get it instead of Chevy Aveo)

It's most probably original clutch.. but it runs good.. now that I finally changed my engine mount + 60K service.. my little Boxster runs perfect!

Thanks
Sasha
$200 clams an hour?!! Holy **************** good to know the recession is over already.
Well when the stealership is charging those sorts of labor rates I guess the Indy is in a good position to keep his above average too. Although that has more to do with supply and demand... if there aren't many indys in that area then they'll leverage that.

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send in a sample for an oil analysis, pretty inexpensive. I think some members on this board have posted their results. Might give you some background on the state of things.
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