Oil on garage floor!!!!

[teacher]

I was lucky, they checked out the car good while it was still under warranty, here's the deal:

I was about to buy the car from Mercedes of South Bay, which I did, they held me there, captive in a way, to get my measly 2002 MR2 details, does it run good? all that...so I rode in the car, sound, everything good, but he directional signal stuck, no signal...they said at Mercedes okay just go with them under warranty, so I did...anyway you expect a a bad story, but they checked out my car big time at Porsche! Under warranty they smacked up the RMS, did the deal with the clutch and worked on the windows (up/down when the top is down) and a coolant leak and I was amazed that they were so honest, so they showed me the bill: over $2800 of work down under warranty...goooood people, they could have blown me off, not telling me about the RMS or anything else, and no prob since and I even have a 2 year/24,000 warranty on the work, go tell! and I asked Toyota, the MR2 I used to own for service, lies all around, point is German cars run great as they say, and it's a point of pride to do good business, thanks Pacific Porsche, you pimped my used ride!

[Brucelee]

Good stuff. Happy Driving!

[Adam]

So Pah, what is the diagnosis?

[UKBXSTR]

Location is spot on for RMS - fingers crossed its a minor leak elsewhere

[PAH]

OK, it's the worst case scenario!!

Took it to OPC Liverpool, and they immediately diagnosed RMS failure, which is what I thought. Fortunately, the car is still under warranty, and this failure is covered.

They can't take the car in until 3rd May (!) and when I do they need it for 2 full days, which I guess is probably normal. However, he said that the leak was small, and therefore it is OK to drive until they take it in. I'm a bit concerned - is there any chance I could do further damage?

I've heard a few stories about RMS failure, and it being a weak point on the 986 and the 996. I'm now worried, because I've only had the car since December, and I've already been affected. The car is a 2002 Boxster S by the way. Is there an upgrade to the seal that the OPC will fit, or is this failure likely to happen again in the future?

Thanks for your help.

Paul

[Tool Pants]

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15&st=0&#entry24

If oil leaks from the oil cooler on top of the engine, the rear crankcase bolts, or from the intermediate shaft flange seal, or the intermediate shaft flange bolts, then engine oil will show up in the same place it does for when the rear main seal leaks. The exact source cannot be determined until the transmission and flywheel are removed. This is why there is a new repair procedure.

The good news is that there is a new seal that just came out with the 997/987. This is the 3rd version seal. It is the same size as the 996/986 seal so now that is the replacement for the prior models. The bad news is that there are 2 confirmed leaky 997s with this seal, and a 996 owner from Liverpool with this new seal.

If your crankshaft is not in specs then a replacement seal, if it is the RMS, will most likely leak again. We have a local Boxster owner and the 2nd generation seal was replaced 5 times, then Porsche gave up and put in a rebuilt engine - which is another story. The 996 owner I mentioned had 6 replacement seals. What month and year was your car made?

Monitor the oil and just drive it. You do not have a gusher.

[Brucelee]

I simply cannot understand why Porsche cannot get this RMS issue handled. I don't know of any other car where this RMS is such a weak point.

If this were a Kia, perhaps I could understand the inability over 8 years to resolve what should be a routine engineerning flaw.

Porsche has been making flat sixes for HOW LONG??????????????????????????????/

[srad34]

Originally Posted by PAH

OK, it's the worst case scenario!!

Took it to OPC Liverpool, and they immediately diagnosed RMS failure, which is what I thought. Fortunately, the car is still under warranty, and this failure is covered.

They can't take the car in until 3rd May (!) and when I do they need it for 2 full days, which I guess is probably normal. However, he said that the leak was small, and therefore it is OK to drive until they take it in. I'm a bit concerned - is there any chance I could do further damage?

I've heard a few stories about RMS failure, and it being a weak point on the 986 and the 996. I'm now worried, because I've only had the car since December, and I've already been affected. The car is a 2002 Boxster S by the way. Is there an upgrade to the seal that the OPC will fit, or is this failure likely to happen again in the future?

Thanks for your help.

Paul

Don't mix this with IMS failure, if your only getting some spots, keep an eye on the oil level and use it as normal. Unless its leaving a pool, I would not be overly concerned (plus leave some card under you car in the garage!)

[blib]

Have you heard of catastrophic engine failer? Don't drive , have towed to garage! Mine was IMS failure, in May last year. Paid $6k and I'm rebuilding now.