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				Test Drove a 3.6 Carrera today, prefer my 986
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			Today I test drove an 02 Carrera cabrio 3.6 tiptronic and I gotta say besides the added power I prefer my 986. I think instead I'm going to go big bore or 3.6 swap. The car was in amazing shape, same year and color as my 986. Pretty good price on it too. I just love the feel of my car and would rather add power. Cozier cockpit and more storage than the 911. Am I nuts? 
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			02-13-2010, 04:10 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2010, 05:29 PM
			
			
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			Not to mention, the 911 has no roll bars, apparently.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-13-2010, 06:34 PM
			
			
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			The boxster/cayman never let's you forget you are in a sports car. The 911 would on occasion.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-14-2010, 06:32 AM
			
			
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			Personally, I like the fact that the 911 has a back seat - it allows you to go out driving a lot more when you have little ones.  It only fits little ones.   
 
Both cars look and drive awesome but I've give a little extra $ for more HP and personally, I'd pickup my favorite car a Carrera 4S!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-14-2010, 06:36 AM
			
			
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				Not to mention, the 911 has no roll bars, apparently. 
			
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  Yes they do, they pop up behind the seats when a certain degree of rollover is sensed. Normally they are hidden.
 
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			02-14-2010, 08:08 AM
			
			
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			Anyone used to the balance of a mid engine car will NEVER be as happy with a rear engine, or front engine car.  
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			02-14-2010, 09:42 AM
			
			
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				Both cars look and drive awesome but I've give a little extra $ for more HP and personally, I'd pickup my favorite car a Carrera 4S! 
			
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It ain't a little extra $ it is a lot extra. 
 
I drove the 2010 Cayman S 3.2L with a sticker of $66k and the 2010 Carrera S with a sticker of $105K. 
 
That is $9,750 per tenth of a liter of displacement to go from the Cayman S to the Carrera S!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yes they do, they pop up behind the seats when a certain degree of rollover is sensed. Normally they are hidden. 
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			02-14-2010, 11:37 AM
			
			
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				It ain't a little extra $ it is a lot extra.  
 
I drove the 2010 Cayman S 3.2L with a sticker of $66k and the 2010 Carrera S with a sticker of $105K.  
 
That is $9,750 per tenth of a liter of displacement to go from the Cayman S to the Carrera S! 
			
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But nobody ever grew up wanting a Cayman...     
PS: Cayman have always had the 3.4L from the start.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				But nobody ever grew up wanting a Cayman...     
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Only because Caymans were not a Porsche model when we were kids. 
I guarantee there will be a slew of "grew up always wanting a Cayman" Cayman owners in 15 years!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Only because Caymans were not a Porsche model when we were kids. 
I guarantee there will be a slew of "grew up always wanting a Cayman" Cayman owners in 15 years! 
			
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Well, I could hardly care what people growing up wanting to buy.
 
It's an emotional decision so the person buying it wouldn't care if it costs more or it doesn't handle as well as whatever.
 
The fact that Porsche don't want anything to do with any racing teams that race Caymans says A LOT.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			02-14-2010, 01:11 PM
			
			
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				Well, I could hardly care what people growing up wanting to buy. 
 
It's an emotional decision so the person buying it wouldn't care if it costs more or it doesn't handle as well as whatever. 
 
The fact that Porsche don't want anything to do with any racing teams that races Caymans says A LOT. 
			
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I've talked to a lot of Porsche insiders who all say Porsche is having a time keeping the 911 version car as their "Top of the Line." More and more people are complaining about having full Porsche options available for the Cayman, including engines up to and including the Turbo motor. There are not many World Class GT car enthusiasts who don't know mid engine is the way to go. 
As far as performance and racing, if Porsche allows one team to compete on an even basis with the GT2, 3 or Cup cars using a Cayman platform, you can kiss the 997 car goodbye. 
Here is an interesting article about the new HSR Cayman Interseries cars -  http://www.guycosmo.com/cosmo-blog/2009/12/8/the-cayman-interseries-race-at-hsrs-sebring-fall-classic.html  -  "I'm sold - and you can bet I'll be convincing a lot of my coaching clients that this is the way to go - instead of buying GT3-Cup cars." 
One of this series "deals" is you have to have an historic Porsche racing paint scheme -  http://images.google.com/images?q=HSR+Cayman+INterseries+pics&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=X2t4S_LIO4uWtgeJlrzGCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBAQsAQwAA
Don't get me wrong, Ekam, I've owned and loved several (4 actually) 911's 
from a '66 up to a '78 and I think 993s, 996s and 997s are beautiful cars, but the mid engine design and balance are superior. MY '71 914-6 was definitely my favorite air cooled 6 Porsche, even though the 911s were a better all around car. 
There is also a reason Grand AM will not allow Caymans. It's quite possible Porsche would pull support for Cup cars and they are a major draw to Grand Am events.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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