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Old 06-16-2009, 07:26 AM   #1
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I may try the Motul next time. About the same price as the Red Line 5W40 that I have been using the past 3 years.

http://shop.edoperformance.com/motul-8100-5w40-xcess-synthetic-oil-502-505-ll98-2293-porsche-105-p-15027.html
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:47 AM   #2
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I may try the Motul next time. About the same price as the Red Line 5W40 that I have been using the past 3 years.

http://shop.edoperformance.com/motul-8100-5w40-xcess-synthetic-oil-502-505-ll98-2293-porsche-105-p-15027.html
That's interesting, as I've been watching your posts to gain any insight of how RedLine is working out for you since I've been using the Motul 8100 Excess!

BTW, I noticed that the Motul 8100 Excess doesn't look like it was going to be renewed (expired 10-23-2008) under the last Approved Oil List (9-25-2008) -- could of been an annotation oversight by Porsche.

Attached my current UOA history up to the last oil change. If anyone wants the raw data Excel spreadsheet to track your own UOAs, PM me your email.

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Old 06-16-2009, 09:15 AM   #3
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That's interesting, as I've been watching your posts to gain any insight of how RedLine is working out for you since I've been using the Motul 8100 Excess!

BTW, I noticed that the Motul 8100 Excess doesn't look like it was going to be renewed (expired 10-23-2008) under the last Approved Oil List (9-25-2008) -- could of been an annotation oversight by Porsche.

Attached my current UOA history up to the last oil change. If anyone wants the raw data Excel spreadsheet to track your own UOAs, PM me your email.

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Paul, I still like the Red Line very much. Just willing to try other oils that appear better than Mobil 1. Plus, the Motul is on the "list".

I don't know or care what the "best" oil is. I just want something that is better than Mobil 1.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:02 AM   #4
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Paul, I still like the Red Line very much. Just willing to try other oils that appear better than Mobil 1. Plus, the Motul is on the "list".

I don't know or care what the "best" oil is. I just want something that is better than Mobil 1.
I get less startup valve train noise with Motul 8100 Excess vs M1 0W-40 in an MB E320 so that's why I went with Motul. How's RedLine on this issue? With their high percentage of ester basestock, the noise (I assume) would be less. I was looking at RLI's HOBS oils but they don't make the HTHS reqt of Porsche (>= 3.5 cP).

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Old 06-16-2009, 10:18 AM   #5
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I get less startup valve train noise with Motul 8100 Excess vs M1 0W-40 in an MB E320 so that's why I went with Motul. How's RedLine on this issue? With their high percentage of ester basestock, the noise (I assume) would be less. I was looking at RLI's HOBS oils but they don't make the HTHS reqt of Porsche (>= 3.5 cP).

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My car sounds the same on start-up; after +5 months of winter storage, or a cold start-up in March or July, or hot start-up after a long drive. No valve train noise.

I attribute this to the Red Line and a diligent & easy winter hibernation routine.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:03 AM   #6
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My car sounds the same on start-up; after +5 months of winter storage, or a cold start-up in March or July, or hot start-up after a long drive. No valve train noise.

I attribute this to the Red Line and a diligent & easy winter hibernation routine.
Thx, I appreciate the info.

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:53 AM   #7
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Last year I put Castrol Syntec 5W-50 in my '02. I'm pretty sure it used to be an approved oil, but now I see that most 5W-50s are off the list. Is this because they don't approve seasonal oils any more based on the text in the document(being so thick I guess)

Should I not use 5W-50 any more? It used to be okay and now it's dangerous? I don't understand how these approvals can change year to year. Is it okay to drive it in hotter weather only(I don't drive in the winter months anyway).
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:13 AM   #8
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Last year I put Castrol Syntec 5W-50 in my '02. I'm pretty sure it used to be an approved oil, but now I see that most 5W-50s are off the list. Is this because they don't approve seasonal oils any more based on the text in the document(being so thick I guess)

Should I not use 5W-50 any more? It used to be okay and now it's dangerous? I don't understand how these approvals can change year to year. Is it okay to drive it in hotter weather only(I don't drive in the winter months anyway).
The only Porsche approve 5W50 is Mobil 1. Very hard to find in the USA. Canada has it at Wal-Mart.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:37 AM   #9
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I may try the Motul next time. About the same price as the Red Line 5W40 that I have been using the past 3 years.

http://shop.edoperformance.com/motul-8100-5w40-xcess-synthetic-oil-502-505-ll98-2293-porsche-105-p-15027.html
Sheesh, makes Royal Purple look like a bargain.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:44 AM   #10
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Sheesh, makes Royal Purple look like a bargain.
Really? I thought RP was about $9 a quart too.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:56 AM   #11
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Really? I thought RP was about $9 a quart too.
If you buy the 20 quart pail, it's about $7.15 per quart.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:15 AM   #12
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If you buy the 20 quart pail, it's about $7.15 per quart.
That is a very good price. Do you have to pay for shipping?
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