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Old 02-09-2005, 06:50 AM   #1
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Went down to the dealer service lot where the PCA was holding a track driving seminar and saw the 987 and 997 in the service lot (both in Silver). Hard to believe but The 997 is longer than the newest Corvette.

Lux, can't believe you didn't imediately jump in and drive it!
The interior and look of the car are secondary to me. And a distant second at that. From everything I have heard the new S is kick ass to drive. Not a single complaint and one magazine rated it above the 997. The performance seems to be on a level that is shared only by the Lotus elise. But the day when I pay $50K for a Toyo 1.8 engine will never come for me.

In terms of the styling it doesn't fit the performance. Well that's just my take, albeit from a former design student. I took one class on auto design taught by a former GM interiors designer, OMG that was sooo much work 7 10 illustrations per critique and that's just one class. Anyhoo This direction towards a more organic circular design is too common amongst roadsters these days. I was hoping that Porsche would have gone in a more aggresive approach like incorporated the Turbo headlights or something similar. (I'm actually considering doing that conversion myslef, I know its expensive but I think this car's performance is worth it). The classic round eyed Porsche/VW look is classic but the past is past. The amoeba shape lights and modern exterior mirrors were indicating a move toward more Italian (Ferrari/Maserati) designs.

I was however expecting a radical change on the interior because consistency or gradual change in the exterior of a successful car's is now the standard in the industry. The Miata and the Boxster were both the best selling car's in each make's history and both kept the design in tact for 7-8 years. I was hoping to see a more minimalist desing this area, keeping consistent with the pure sports car ideal. Instead Porsche went with the Cayene approach of a more LEXUS enviroment. Rather than introducing a smaller steering wheel like on the S2000 (one of my favorite features) they went with a bigger wheel. It would have been cool if Porsche introduced two different interiors, one for the S with a sharper edge to include less novelties and more necessities (like a legitimiate kevlar racing seat not in leather), harness bar, lots of carbon, a higer stick shifter or closer to the steering wheel and overall weight reduction.
The car magazines would have loved that.
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I don't really dig it. I think the 03/04 "S" is one of the biggest bargains in sports cars, especially when you can buy a new leftover for $8/10k off msrp.
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8-10K off?
really? what did that total price come out to for you?
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58K is not bad at all. Needs a Boxster red interior

But my 2000 S had a mere 10,000 miles. Snuck home with that one for 30K and a six month powr train warranty.
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That Base 2004 with less than a 100 miles is only $39,000! That only $10K more than I paid for my 2000 S.
but I plan to spend at least $5,000 on wheels,aerokit and hardtop.
My Boxster's low mileage and good condition should keep it at around $25K for a few years. A $7-10K depreciation I can stomach. A $25,000 hit like the original owner of my car took (at least, he traded it in for an Acura) is too much for me to shrug off.
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The new cup holders can come in handy.
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Lol ! this is too funny !!!
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The new cup holders can come in handy.


So they ARE useful. Those wacky Germans think of everything.
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Thumbs up 987 vs 986

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I don't really dig it. I think the 03/04 "S" is one of the biggest bargains in sports cars, especially when you can buy a new leftover for $8/10k off msrp.
I concurr. I bought mine 2003S in Dec of 2003with 3300 miles for 47-48 there abouts. I love the car. The 987 has some improvements with a nice bump up in hp but to justify spending for a new car again I don't think so. I'll wait a couple of years since I'm having a blast with mine anyway and then when the engine gets tweeked a couple of times then at that point get it.
I don't want to sink thousands of dollars into a car to modify it. The 986 is plenty quick as is, in NY with 55 mph speed limits which is rediculous what is the difference whether it goes from 0-60 in 5.5 sec or 5.2 as in the 987. I do think that the 987 interior is nicer than the 986. Well at least it looks richer to me. The workmanship I would say is the same. Cluster lay out seems better and larger and the center console looks more modern with the 987. I prefer the Carrera alloys which I have in my car. That is the long and short of the 987 vs 986
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