'09 Engine swap

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Money and lots of it

[vincesf]

My suggestion is wait until they work out the kinks, as you may be swapping one potential problem with another.
vincesf

[Cloudsurfer]

While I'm sure this can be done, and people will figure it out, it all comes down to the cost/ benefit equation. Also, I agree, the new motors will likely have their own issues- though, in Porsche's benefit, I doubt they'll be as severe as the IMS problems.

[renzop]

Figure it this way - $12000 for the new motor. $4000 for the new computer. $5000 for installation and engineering to make it all work. That's $21K and you would still have a car that's worth $20K and has no warranty.

Or you can buy a new S for $65K and sell your old car for $20K. Total out of pocket will be $45K and you will end up with a car with a resale value of $60K and has a 4 year 50K mile warranty.

Its hard to find an upside to the engine swap.

[kabel]

Let me fix that for you:

Originally Posted by renzop

Its hard to find a fiscally responsible upside to the engine swap.

It's not always about the money

(ironically from a guy with not a lot of money )

[ekam]

I'm so tempted to visit the dealer in Feb when these babies are in.

[renzop]

Originally Posted by kabel

Let me fix that for you:

It's not always about the money

(ironically from a guy with not a lot of money )

No, it is not always about the money. But what other upsides would there be to doing the swap?

1) Ease of transaction - the new car is easier to obtain than the development process for a new engine swap

2) Reliability - the new car is new all over not just the engine. With the swap you have a bucket of old used parts surrounding a new engine. The new car comes with a warranty.

3) Handling - the new car offers wider wheels and better suspension tuning, better brakes, more sophisticated PSM and ABS

4) Interior comfort - the new car offers more room, more comfort, better ergonomics and .... drumroll please - cup holders.

The only upside I think you can give to the swap is it will be a conversation piece and the owner can take pride in doing something different. That's of very dubious value (IMHO)

Regards,
Alan

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The thing that keeps me in my 986 and thinking about a Raby engine or egine swap is that I think the 986 is just a nicer looking car. For some reason the look of the 987 never struck a cord with me. That brings me to the best, most expensive solution of all. Rebody a new 987 with carbon fiber 986 body work. It's a win-win-lose situation. You get the best looking Boxster and it'll be lighter than a regular 987, a great interior and drivetrain and lose lots of money.

Originally Posted by renzop

Figure it this way - $12000 for the new motor. $4000 for the new computer. $5000 for installation and engineering to make it all work. That's $21K and you would still have a car that's worth $20K and has no warranty.

Or you can buy a new S for $65K and sell your old car for $20K. Total out of pocket will be $45K and you will end up with a car with a resale value of $60K and has a 4 year 50K mile warranty.

Its hard to find an upside to the engine swap.

As the years go by this equation is likely to improve for the used Boxster owner. Accidents & mistreatment will produce a pool of donor vehicles so it's not out of the question for those among us who can't afford to buy a new one. I think the suggestions in last months Excellence for the M96 combined with a careful selection of conrods and pistons could produce a real sleeper for the older Box owner and a true performance gain for much less money than an 09 unit.