11-06-2008, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
Check out Renegade Hybrids online. They make kits to drop a chevy v8 in a 928. Very fast, very reliable and cheap. Find one without an engine and GO>

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I think I saw a 944 done by them in excellence a few months back. They dropped a LS1 engine in it. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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11-06-2008, 07:56 AM
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Here is my 1988 928 S4. I have had it for a couple of years and it is an awesome car. Yes, it is an automatic and that does detract from the "sportscar" experience. I often refer to it as my German corvette. It is a beast that gets complements just about every time I take it out. I did take it to an autocross school and one of the instructors took it out and posted a very impressive time. It is not the pig that some believe it to be. On the highway it is the absolute cruiser.
I have found that these cars seem to have taken two paths. They either have deteriorated to junk via poor maintenance or they are low mileage future collectors. You just don't see a lot of them because a lot were not made. They were very expensive when new and just did not sell well. I had hoped that mine fell into the latter with 52,000 miles on it. It has been for sale but nobody wants it.
As far as the maintenance, the drivetrain is pretty bullet proof. It is all the other things that kill you. I have been fortunate to only have had to replace a rear wheel bearing though that was an ordeal, some window switches, and replaced some interior trim pieces that had been missing.
Overall, it is a great car. When the S4 came out in 1987, Porsche took one to the Bonneville salt flats and set a world record for production cars. Yes, at the time it was the fastest production car in the world at around 160mph.
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11-06-2008, 10:13 AM
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My Father in Law has one that he rotates in and out with his other cars as a daily driver. Fortunately, I get to drive it if I want, and it is an absolutely fantastic car. His is a five-speed and it has proven to be extremely reliable. I like it so much I've thought about picking one up.
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11-06-2008, 10:30 AM
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I wanted and still want a 928. I can't seem to find one that I like because they all seem to be automatics. If you've a newer styled one with Carrera Lightweights there is no way you can't forget it,its pretty amazing.
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11-06-2008, 10:39 AM
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While mine is an automatic, if anyone is interested send me a PM. I started at $15k but am down to $12k. The December issue of Excellence features the 928 in its market review so you can get an idea of what they are going for.
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11-06-2008, 01:28 PM
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I had a 1985 928 S a few years ago. First the good stuff. Loved the car!
I think it is a beautiful car. The ride is firm and heavy. It was a pleasure to take a long drive. Very fast, expecially when you get the car on the highway.
Now for the bad part. DON'T BUY ONE. Let me repeat myself. DON'T BUY ONE. DON'T EVEN THINK OF BUYING ONE. IF SOMEONE GIVES YOU ONE, DON'T TAKE IT.
These cars are very, very expensive to maintain. The AC will now blow cold. Something is always breaking. It wasn't just my car. Almost everyone I spoke to had the same experience. When you take your car in for any repair, somehow the bills were always near $1,000 or more. I could have leased a new Boxster for the price it took to maintain car.
On day, I started the car up and the engine blew up into 3 pieces. There was a large dent in the hood from the inside of the car. I sold the car for parts for $1,500.
It is so nice to have my Boxster. It always starts and so far, no mechanical problems. After experiencing the 928, my Boxster is a bargain.
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11-06-2008, 01:29 PM
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i remember seeing these a lot in years gone by... i think I might have seen ONE in the past year on the roads here...
kinda looks like a 944 or the second gen Mazda RX7s.....
if i was going to buy a non-convertible porsche, that was older - i'd buy a 911, not one of these... maybe why we don't see them around much... once something $$$ breaks, they just disappear into parts....
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11-06-2008, 01:49 PM
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The way to go
928 Automatic and Five Speed Conversion
For over 25 years, Renegade Hybrids has been offering Small Block Chevy conversion kits for most model Porsches. About 15 years ago, the 928 joined the Renegade arsenal as we introduced the "German Corvette" to some "American Muscle." The 928 Small Block Chevy kits offered a huge increase in power and reliability, more room to work around the engine, lower maintenance costs, and less weight.
In the late 90's, GM abandoned their 1950's technology Small Block Chevy design and introduced (arguably) one of the best V-8 engines every built. They took the simplicity of the original small block design, selected lighter materials such as aluminum and composites, opened it up to breathe more efficiently, and installed variations of this engine in much of their vast product line. The LS-series was born with rave reviews and fantastic success.
Renegade recognized the need to keep up with the latest technology, so in 2005, the 944 LS-series kit was introduced... and it's now our biggest seller. Then came the 911 LS-series kit, which has made quite an impact with the Porsche purists, boasting lighter weight than the 3.0L engines. Even some 914 LS-1's have been built with some amazing results. BUT, why hasn't the ultra smooth, very simple, and quite powerful LS-1 found a home in the 928? Well, it has now!!!
Introducing the LS-series automatic and five speed 928 conversion kits! ( picture ) I can tell you with confidence, this motor installation is actually quite easy and the results are fantastic. Plus, it's much lighter and smaller than the stock 928 engine making maintenance a breeze. With the extra-added room in the engine bay of the 928, several LS-series motors and their accessory packages will fit under the hood including the Corvette ZO-6. Even carbureted versions of the LS based motors are an option if cost and simplicity are paramount.
Maybe you like the idea of a carburetor but seek the weight savings of the all aluminum LS-1? Thanks to Edelbrock and MSD, they have teamed together to build an intake and ignition system for the LS-series. Edelbrock has developed an intake that will replace the composite unit and allows for the installation of a four-barrel carburetor. MSD have used their expertise to manufacture an ignition control system that uses the stock individual coil packs on the factory LS engines. Together, these clever creations eliminates the need for the GM computer or custom harness, and makes the Renegade LS-series 928 engine conversion even easier yet.
Our final option may indeed be the most popular. Renegade Hybrids and Turn Key Engine Supply have teamed up to develop a specific engine package for each of our new LS-series conversions including the 928. With a new engine (not rebuilt), equipped with a complete stand alone FI system, the computer already programmed, a harness already custom built, the proper accessories installed, the correct exhaust manifolds provided, dyno tuned to your desired HP, and backed by a iron-clad warranty, this option must be very expensive... right? No way. We have new 410HP motors ready to ship for under $8000 with our discount! Don't believe it, take a look: here
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