A Solara tried to race me...

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by grantsfo

I'm a Boxster owner! I own a nice 1999 2.5 that I'm converting to a 3.4 so I dont get embarrassed by Japanese sedans on the track. I didnt call Porsche drivers sissies, I called the Boxster the sissy car of the Porsche world. Although new Boxster S with 3.4 motor is certainly much closer to a real performance car now. Dont get me wrong Boxster is a fine car almost as good a sports car as my 914 was, but all but the 987 S Boxster would be stomped by the Mazdaspeed 6 on big HP track.

I figured a ridiculous post about somone street racing a Solara was the perfect place to have a little fun.

And for more giggles here is result from a PCA AX I drove the 100% stock MazdaSpeed 6. AX isnt that where Boxster should excel over a 3600 lb AWD sedan on street tires? Car in 17th place was the MS6. http://www.pca-ggr.org/files/htm/10-13-07candlestick.htm

Picture of the beast in action:

I'm confused, there are 2.7L and 3.2L Boxsters and a Cayman faster than you and then identical cars behind you. All I can gleen from this information is AX performance is heavily dependent on the driver, which I think we already understood.

[bmx672]

So If I beat my mom in a K-car and she has a Lambo then the K-car is faster?
That the reasoning here that you are using.

I get it...

[ekam]

Originally Posted by bmx672

So If I beat my mom in a K-car and she has a Lambo then the K-car is faster?
That the reasoning here that you are using.

I get it...

Sounds like someone has a case of penis envy.

Checking his link he also beat a 997 GT3 which ranked 54th... I bet you he waved his cock around that guy's face for 10 good minutes too.

[grantsfo]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

I'm confused, there are 2.7L and 3.2L Boxsters and a Cayman faster than you and then identical cars behind you. All I can gleen from this information is AX performance is heavily dependent on the driver, which I think we already understood.

There was a modified 2.7 on DOT R tires a little over a second ahead of me with very good driver at the helm. Gleen at your hearts content. If the Mazda was such a terrible performer how on a long 70 second AX circuit was a "poor handling" car on street tires able to keep within a little over a second of the fastest Boxster on DOT R tires and modified suspension? ...Perhaps great low end power and outstanding handling of the MS6 gave me an advantage? Believe me it wasnt all driving.

Anyone who knows GGR AX series understands that top 20 isnt an easy feat in a well setup Porsche. For a street car to get into top 20 is impressive.

[bmx672]

Easy answer... DRIVER
I think you're giving waaaay too much credit to tires.
Like my mom driving a car with more horsepower... I would still beat her if she had 200 more.


Decent car+good driver= good
Better car+good driver=better
Bad car+good driver=good
Good car+bad driver=bad

[grantsfo]

Too much credit to tires? ...really? I like to think I have some expereince with running both street and DOT tires and I usually gain 2 seconds with DOT's. When I know a course is going to be fairly open I chose the Mazda 6 over the Boxster for AX becuase I know I can go much faster in the Mazda 6. Its also a kick to to show up in the wolf in sheeps clothing at Porsche events.

LOL! Guess all 30 of the Boxster and Cayman drivers at that event were slouches because even the 2 that beat the Mazda were not far ahead? Some of you guys are hilarious. Never understood the "Boxster is superior" mentality. Its a great car but it lacks good low end torque that is critical for track and AX driving on certain courses and in stockish form they understeer like pigs.

Superior Japanese engineering + Great low end torque + AWD traction - Average driver = Boxster beater

Mazdaspeed 6 also has several street class rally wins over cars you would typically expect to beat it.

The other nice thing about the Mazdaspeed 6 is that its not a mass produced car like the Boxster so you dont see many around. Nice to have some exclusivity when I'm cruising for the babes. Put some dope 20" wheels on the MS6 and CF hood and I'll be stylin.



Signed, Long John Silver.

[dmcutter]

Dang. My S is more common than a Mazda and chicks won't dig it as much. Oh well. Reckon I'll trade the ill handling pig in...

[grantsfo]

I just picked up this cute little car in a trade. But it doesnt have cup holders? WTF?

[Lil bastard]

[Jump]

Originally Posted by grantsfo

The other nice thing about the Mazdaspeed 6 is that its not a mass produced car like the Boxster so you dont see many around. Nice to have some exclusivity when I'm cruising for the babes. Put some dope 20" wheels on the MS6 and CF hood and I'll be stylin.

Signed, Long John Silver.

A) How do you get the top down?

B) How do you lose the back seats? Reminds me too much of a mini van with all of those seats and doors.

[Ike]

Hey Gearheads,

Without diversity, we would all be driving VWs! (at least the French would ) One could only guess what model we would be pokin'.

I haven't stopped smiling since I read post #1.....don't stop now.

Happy Trails,
Ike

P.S.: Never underestimate the potential of the Boxster S.

[sparkycrash]

This has been a great thread.....I havent always liked or understood what is really going on but lots of passion and perhaps deception.