A Solara tried to race me...

[Samson]

Originally Posted by rick3000

I probably would have done the same thing. I don't street race, but there is no law against accelerating quickly. So depending on my mood I may just hang back, or leave them in my dust.

You can be cited for 'excessive acceleration' in some states.

About learning to respect the Porsche brand... you do realize that a current model Camry V6 (hell, even a Rav4) is neck and neck with base 986 as far as acceleration is concerned, right?

[RandallNeighbour]

From time to time this happens to me too. Usually V6 Mustangs, but virtually the same scenario.

I'm always thinking, "Does the person want to see if their car is as fast as mine, or are they just needling me to nail it and provide a quick show of speed and performance?"

Porsches are just not that great off the line unless you've got this little badge on the back of your car...

[grantsfo]

And here's the video that we all just hope disapears. Never thought I'd see the day when a Hyundai out runs a Porsche.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcBJe13rb8

[FTD]

I was on the highway once, in a disappearing left lane, and sped up to get in front and over, and a big honking F350 gassed it to 'race' me. It was funny. I had plenty of lane left so it wasn't malicious. I just think its funny how truck lovers LOVE their trucks. It was like a mansion dueling with a dog house.

[LoveBunny]

Originally Posted by FTD

I was on the highway once, in a disappearing left lane, and sped up to get in front and over, and a big honking F350 gassed it to 'race' me. It was funny. I had plenty of lane left so it wasn't malicious. I just think its funny how truck lovers LOVE their trucks. It was like a mansion dueling with a dog house.

I've had more huge trucks run me down on the interstate than I care to count.

I knew a judge who had a jaguar convertible (not sure of the model). He had some young kids come up next to him in some rice burner suped up POS and rev the engine, so he just took off and left them in the dust. He was like, "I don't know what they did to their car, but mine just has a big fast engine, period." So yeah, they got their asses whipped by a 50+ year old judge.

[gmboxster]

What's wrong with 50 ??

[LoveBunny]

nothing, but I'm sure when you are 18 you don't want to have someone old as your dad beat you racing.

[super66]

sometimes I step back and realize that this is a 986 forum which puts the likes of me in the 987 in the minority....

BUT...after reading this thread.....if anyone can confuse the handling of a Mazda Sedan and label it as just as good as the boxster....you all need to trade up to the 987

My car will never be confused for anything else...nothing drives like it...of course I don't have the honor of spinning lambos but nothing under 100K I've been in feels remotely as good....I've spent sometime in the new Mercedes C350...not even close....I doubt the mazda 6 speed turbo supercharged awd compressor gtx rs sedan would come close

[Adam]

Originally Posted by super66

sometimes I step back and realize that this is a 986 forum which puts the likes of me in the 987 in the minority....BUT...after reading this thread.....if anyone can confuse the handling of a Mazda Sedan and label it as just as good as the boxster....you all need to trade up to the 987

Uh...ok... Be even better with an S model though right? Oh...sorry.

[grantsfo]

Originally Posted by super66

sometimes I step back and realize that this is a 986 forum which puts the likes of me in the 987 in the minority....

BUT...after reading this thread.....if anyone can confuse the handling of a Mazda Sedan and label it as just as good as the boxster....you all need to trade up to the 987

My car will never be confused for anything else...nothing drives like it...of course I don't have the honor of spinning lambos but nothing under 100K I've been in feels remotely as good....I've spent sometime in the new Mercedes C350...not even close....I doubt the mazda 6 speed turbo supercharged awd compressor gtx rs sedan would come close

I dont think there are many places where a MS6 couldnt out run a 986 Boxster or a 987 non S Boxster. Track lap times of Mazdaspeed 6's are better than 986 Boxster S in many track comparisons and they run up there with M3's. MS6 I have seen beat majority of street tire clad Boxsters in AX events. Event last year my 100% stock Mazda on street tires beat 28 of 32 boxsters at a PCA AX ...many were on DOT R tires. It deserves some respect. I have 80,000 miles of boxster driving and AXing under my belt so I do know the sissy of Porsches (Boxster) pretty well. I have driven 987 as well and the Mazda has some definite advantages. Mazda is much easier to throw into turns than Boxsters and it handles transitions very well. Boxster has advantage in slower turns where momentum can be maintained. Mazda is much nicer for commute as I can leave it in 6th gear and use huge low end torque to pull the car. Boxster requires two down shifts to produce similar power.

I appreciate both cars. Dont really understand the need to make Porsche seem like its the best performer? Boxsters have a variety of handling ills, but they are still nearly as nice as my MazdaSpeed 6.

[gmboxster]

Originally Posted by Samson

You can be cited for 'excessive acceleration' in some states.

About learning to respect the Porsche brand... you do realize that a current model Camry V6 (hell, even a Rav4) is neck and neck with base 986 as far as acceleration is concerned, right?

True. You guys do realize that Boxsters certainly aren't the fastest cars out there, right ? Now cornering and handling, that's a different story.

[bmx672]

That's what I was getting at... it's an immediate left turn. you might have 5' before you need to start turning. So basically the Boxster is one of the best cars for it. Like I said I do not race at all. I like to corner. This just happens to be a stoplight at a corner with two lane turning. If I see the guy again, which I'm sure I will, I'll act the part then just go really slow. The best thing about my commute is that I'm not the fastest or the slowest on the road. I average 80mph... there's guys out there that will run you over if you are only going 80mph. Its crazy. The cops are NEVER out during the morning or afternoon rush. I think they know traffice moves better... and most of us on the roads at that time are semi-professional drivers/commuters. you should see the number of cops out there during off times... 11am-2pm... weekends. I came home early today for a sick kid and I saw three cops one was on a bike and clocking people. I knew better though because it was off hours. I was only going 70mph.

[Samson]

Originally Posted by gmboxster

True. You guys do realize that Boxsters certainly aren't the fastest cars out there, right ? Now cornering and handling, that's a different story.

This is true (and one of the reasons I like the car)... but in a 'turn the wheel a little and floor' it on ramp situation, you'd be surprised what you have trouble keeping up with. Throw in some actual fun twisties, then yeah. Boxster all the way.

[Dr. Kill]

Maybe the guy was just having a little fun - who knows. Maybe he wasn't trying to prove anything. Maybe he thought it would be funny to provoke you like that – I joked like that with a few muscle cars when I drove a beat-up old Mirage. If you didn't see the guy's face through the blacked out windows, you might not have read his intentions correctly.

[grantsfo]

I dusted a Boxster S in my Mazda 6 Sedan on an empty expresway once. Suprised the hell out of the guy driving the "respected" Porsche brand as he tried like mad to catch me. Porsches make terrible dragsters. He learned quickly to respect the Zoom Zoom Zoom.

Even beat the pants off a bunch of Boxsters this past weekend in the Mazda 6 at an AX and couple of them were on race tires. ...I dont know, Boxsters seem fairly slow to me? Only Boxster that really gave me trouble was a fast 3.4 conversion car on big fat DOT race tires. I was on skinny street tires in a 3600 lb sedan.

My tip to you is to not race well made Japanese cars as you'll likely lose or break your car trying to keep up.

[bmx672]

Ummm, what? Hmmm, Mazda 6... oh, is this a knock knock joke

Okay, who's there?

[angman]

He probably meant a Mazdaspeed6. To be honest its got 274 HP and 280 lb-ft of torque at 3000 RPM and a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds. Not too shaby for an economical and reliable family sedan.

I remember the second day after my wife drove her new BMW 335XI of the lot. She got beat by surprise by some young punk in a Mazdaspeed6 (she wasn't really trying to race him) and was so embarassed that she got mad at me for not suggesting that she get an M3!

In the old school 986's it's all about gear choice, stay in fourth at normal 55 highway speed and the acceleration is pretty damn good. Occasionally my local detective cousin will ride along and encourage me to pass the racing punk perps for a closer look, who am I to disregard a direct request from the local law enforcement?

[grantsfo]

Originally Posted by angman

He probably meant a Mazdaspeed6. To be honest its got 274 HP and 280 lb-ft of torque at 3000 RPM and a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds. Not too shaby for an economical and reliable family sedan.

Yeah its a MazdaSpeed 6 and its a torque monster! There arent many cars that can beat my MS6 off the line in 1st gear. With a couple cheap bolt ons they make over 300 HP. Power comes on very low around 2800 RPM and pulls with freight train like torque until about 6000 RPM. Many stockish MS6's pulling low 13 quarter mile times and slightly modified cars getting into 12's.

I had custom double adjustable Koni racing tubes made into coilovers for the car but kept ride height near stock so it looks like a regular sedan. Its the ultimate sleeper. It will out pull most cars in low RPM's and it handles almost as good as my stock Boxster. I'm always amazed at how well it does in AX being a 3650 lb car. Theres something devilishly fun about beating Porsches on race tires in a family sedan on street tires.