Am I going crazy?

[Jaxonalden]

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You'll see their asking $10K more than it's worth. With that said, it's amazing the car depreciates $23K, or 46.5% in 4 years with only 500 miles! WTF?

They are practically giving away new Corvettes in the Chicago area. I could see adding a Corvette to the stable, but not replacing the Porsche with one.

[David N.]

The suspension type on the older corvette by itself is enough to swing my vote. Independent vs. leaf spring? No contest!

-David

[Brucelee]

It depends on what moves you. I have driven the Zo6 and it is simply a rocket ship. I like the car alot, and ditto for the Box.

Hey, you can always buy another Box if the spirit moves you.

Either way, you are welcome here.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

It depends on what moves you. I have driven the Zo6 and it is simply a rocket ship. I like the car alot, and ditto for the Box.

Hey, you can always buy another Box if the spirit moves you.

Either way, you are welcome here.

Thanks Richard, I appreciate you saying that. I've been on this board for awhile and you guys have been great.

[ddb]

Adam,

I don't think you are crazy to consider a Corvette, especially a Z06. That silver 2004 looks and sounds like a terrific example. I've posted these pictures on here before of a 2002 Z06 a good friend once owned with a supercharger and bunch of other mods. It is by far the fastest street car I've ever been in.

ddb

[Perfectlap]

I always said if you offered me a 911 Turbo or a Corvette for a day at the track I wouldn't think twice before jumping in the Corvette. 10/10th's on a hard right hander in the Corvette must be an experience. So much power, so flat and low.

Now for the drive home from the track no contest... Porsche.
You'll also attract the attention of a totally different type of girl in each as well..


I dunno Boxster vs. Corvette for every day driving?? I don't think I'd pick a thirsty Z06 that has a propensity to attract a lead foot. I think the Corvette has the highest fatality rate of any sports car. Too much power for the dumb or inexperienced.

[Adam]

Ddb, that's a nice Z06 your friend has, a bit to much bling under the hood for my tastes, but the Vortech supercharger on there makes up for it. I bet that thing is deadly quick.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by David N.

The suspension type on the older corvette by itself is enough to swing my vote. Independent vs. leaf spring? No contest!

-David

The suspension on the vette is independent. It has been since 1963. Plus, it's a lightweight fiberglass spring and there is only one spring for the front and one for the back; lighter than the boxsters strut front/rear setp I'm sure.

[Cloudsurfer]

I have driven a few C5 Z06's, both on the track and on the street, and I will say its a hell of a car. Sure, the interior is a bit low rent, and sure its still a Chevy, but its a hell of a car.

I"ve never quite understood by they use the transverse leaf springs, but apparently it works, and yes they are independent.

Patrick

[coreseller]

I too had this dilemma before buying my Boxster S last spring. For pure performance the ZO6 kills the Boxster. Upgrade and maintenance costs are a bit different also. C5 ZO6's have dropped considerably in value since last fall also, heck, they're even discounting the new ZO6's now. The LS6 motors and Tremec 6 speeds are pretty bullet proof also (No IMS or RMS scares). Heck.....WTH was I thinking? Oh yeah......I ALWAYS wanted a Porsche.

BTW....ZO6's on open roads get up to "Stupid Fast" pretty quickly, at least I can twist the little Boxster up now and then without dipping into triple digit speeds...JMHO.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by coreseller

I too had this dilemma before buying my Boxster S last spring. For pure performance the ZO6 kills the Boxster. Upgrade and maintenance costs are a bit different also. C5 ZO6's have dropped considerably in value since last fall also, heck, they're even discounting the new ZO6's now. The LS6 motors and Tremec 6 speeds are pretty bullet proof also (No IMS or RMS scares). .

Exactly, the cost to for maintence is also a factor. My 03 boxster has 27k miles on it and expensive maintence/repairs are coming up. The vette is cheaper to maintain bottom line plus the engines are essentially bulletproof. The clutch overheated so much on my last autocross it slipped and smelled like s*&t. Granted it was the 9th run in a row and it was in August heat, but the guy with the 2002 Z06 has done over 800 autocross runs on the ORIGINAL clutch and it wasn't complaining. The boxster has been a great ride for the past 5 years, but I think it's time for a change and take it to the next level performance wise.

[Mike_Yi]

The 'vettes since about '98 are pretty bullet proof. It's a hell of a lot of money for what you get. I've got an '02 Pontiac Firehawk that's got pretty much the same engine detuned (345 bhp/345 ft./lb. torque). It's my "good" car. The Boxster is my daily driver. The LS1 is one hell of an engine.

Having said all that, the Boxster is a great car too. After doing the rear speaker install, I can't help but think, "Why doesn't GM buy a Boxster, take it apart, and see what makes German engineering so great? It's is a damn well made car."

But, at the end of the day, you've had a Boxster. It's time you get the Z06. At worst, you can decide that you made a mistake, sell the Z06 and buy another Boxster. Right?

I can tell you that nothing brightens your day quite like putting the pedal to the floor on an LS1. The Boxster goes great. It's a great car. In terms of straight line acceleration though, it can't touch the 'vette. The Z06 probably has it in cornering performance too. I think the Boxster shines in braking though because of its lighter weight.

If you have any doubts, just listen to it (60-120.

One thing I know is very different between the Boxster and the LS1 is the power band. The LS1 has a much narrower power band than the Boxster. You have to drive it much differently as a result. Besides, try to get 28 mph on the highway in a Boxster.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden

Follow this link;

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5014-0-0-0&l=1&w=20&p=2&f=5022&s=301949&s2=109597&av=3&vt=new&vt2=used&c=15&c2=15&z=

You'll see their asking $10K more than it's worth. With that said, it's amazing the car depreciates $23K, or 46.5% in 4 years with only 500 miles! WTF?

Yeah, I hear you. I looked it up on KBB on it came to around 35K retail. So they would probably be willing to negotiate price especially if I came in with a nice boxster S for trade.

[shaman1204]

Originally Posted by Adam

Yeah, I hear you. I looked it up on KBB on it came to around 35K retail. So they would probably be willing to negotiate price especially if I came in with a nice boxster S for trade.

Hey Adam, I was born and raised in Springfield. Isringhausen is notoriously high on prices, they are (used to be?) the only luxury dealer in the area. I remember when the local newspaper covered Dennis Rodman coming down to Springfield to pick up his new shiny yellow Porsche.

On a side note, a friend just told me the other day that a mutual friend sold his Nissan Z and Ford F150 to buy one car. I asked what he got and my friend asked "what car do you think of when I say midlife crisis?" I nailed it with the Vette. But I guess the same could be said for any sports car. BTW, the guy's 32.

[Mike_Yi]

Originally Posted by shaman1204

On a side note, a friend just told me the other day that a mutual friend sold his Nissan Z and Ford F150 to buy one car. I asked what he got and my friend asked "what car do you think of when I say midlife crisis?" I nailed it with the Vette. But I guess the same could be said for any sports car. BTW, the guy's 32.

I guy I used to work with saw my Firehawk and said, "I should get a midlife crisis car." I thought, "I'm not having a midlife crisis. I just never grew up."

[renzop]

I think the Vette is a very good car. Especailly when you factor in value. But there are two things that stop me from considering one:

1) Excess power is not important to me. I had an Evo 8 and after a few weeks the joy of full throttle acceleration lost its appeal. The vette is more of the same. I amperfectly satisfied with my 245 bhp Boxster. I much prefer precision handling to all out acceleration. Granted the vette has high cornering limits but not the same kind of placement control as the Boxster.

2) I don't like to be thought of as a Vette kinda guy. Several women I know have the same reaction when they see a guy driving a vette: "Sorry about the small p@n!s"

[Hops]

I'll echo this last post... The last thing I want is more power. I have a 987S, and a friend has the original year 986. His car feels underpowered in certain places, say coming out of a tight turn going up a grade. However, I enjoy driving his car because you can use all the power and wind it out even in street driving.

Im my car I can only get on it for a few seconds before doing excessively over the posted limits (say 30+ over). So, I am constantly having to hold back. I can only imagine how much worse that would be in a Vette or a Viper.

Obviously, I am talking about street driving. If you spend a lot of time on Autocross or Track, you would at least have an outlet for all that power.

[Brucelee]

I have been in a mid-life crisis for about 35 years. What does that mean?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by shaman1204

Hey Adam, I was born and raised in Springfield. Isringhausen is notoriously high on prices, they are (used to be?) the only luxury dealer in the area. I remember when the local newspaper covered Dennis Rodman coming down to Springfield to pick up his new shiny yellow Porsche.

Yeah, tell me about it. They wanted my car plus 17k for the vette just talking to them over the phone so I didn't bother wasting the gas to go over there. I think they would've offered slightly more if they saw and checked my car in person. I'm willing to deal some, but that was a rediculous low ball offer. Anyway, I said Uhhh no thanks! I've done some shopping around and I might just have to sell the car myself. Car dealers just try to shist you anyway. Here are some pics I took over the weekend. If any of you guys are interested in it let me know. It's for sale.