06-23-2008, 07:08 PM
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What exactly does THAT mean?
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06-23-2008, 07:42 PM
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What exactly does THAT mean?

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I simply meant my 914 would not be the electric version in the video above, it would be the fast as hell v8 rubber burner in the video I posted....
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06-23-2008, 10:19 PM
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I don't think you can look at the price/profit for a gallon of gasoline, but rather look at the breakdown of the profit on a 42 gal. barrel of crude.
One barrel of refined crude yields, in addition to Gasoline, Diesel Fuel, #2 Heating Oil, Jet Fuel, Kerosene, Propane, Motor Oil and assorted Petrochemicals.
When all these are factored in, the Oil Cos. are doing just fine - yielding a little over $70/Bbl profit. At today's wholesale prices, that hovers near 50% of the market price (especially when you factor in Oil Depletion Allowances)... that's more than a reasonable profit margin.
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06-23-2008, 11:06 PM
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People have been converting 914's to electric for years. I actually thought about doing a conversion myself last year, but then I found out the average conversion runs about $25k.
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06-24-2008, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by maxferran
I simply meant my 914 would not be the electric version in the video above, it would be the fast as hell v8 rubber burner in the video I posted....
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I am with you. Send us pixs of that 914 when done.
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06-24-2008, 08:00 AM
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As much as the people are sick of people blaming the oil companies I'm sick of people blaming politicians. Who votes for these politicians? The secret council of the Water Buffalo club? Polticians do what the people want. If they don't they get voted out. People didn't care about hybrids, electric cars, and all the other alternatives, instead they jumped all over the big suv's because gas got cheap again. Tom Friedman advocated a $1 tax when gas was $1.85 to spur the industries like these guys with the electric Porsches. Not the approach I would have advocated but the people weren't hearing any hybrid car talk whe car loans were abundant. No more car loan money now and gas will be $6....nice.
As Americans we waste, waste, waste. If its not gasoline we waste food, something insane like 25% of all food bought makes its way into the trash. Before we blame Washington we need to take a long look at ourselves.
As for where to get electricity to power the electric cars. I believe if you build....ingenuity will provide (as long as there is money to be made). Creating new industries that provide cheap electrical power is the shot in the arm that this country needs after we allowed this govt to ship all of our manufacturing jobs to Asia. If enough people buy these cars there are enough clever blokes that will pour some big money into ramping up the delivery of cheap elctricity, hydrogen whatever just no more oil. Whether its Owens Corning making composites for wind mill blades producing insane amounts of power compared to 10 years ago, thin film solar panel technology driving down the costs in a hurry we need to be after these industries before the rest of the world once again beats us to the punch. Germany is already way ahead on wind and China is making big moves in Solar. Nuclear is kinda of a panacea, the wait time for the reactor domes is nearly 12 years and oh yeah the waste...
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06-24-2008, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfectlap
As much as the people are sick of people blaming the oil companies I'm sick of people blaming politicians. Who votes for these politicians? The secret council of the Water Buffalo club? Polticians do what the people want. If they don't they get voted out. People didn't care about hybrids, electric cars, and all the other alternatives, instead they jumped all over the big suv's because gas got cheap again. Tom Friedman advocated a $1 tax when gas was $1.85 to spur the industries like these guys with the electric Porsches. Not the approach I would have advocated but the people weren't hearing any hybrid car talk whe car loans were abundant. No more car loan money now and gas will be $6....nice.
As Americans we waste, waste, waste. If its not gasoline we waste food, something insane like 25% of all food bought makes its way into the trash. Before we blame Washington we need to take a long look at ourselves.
As for where to get electricity to power the electric cars. I believe if you build....ingenuity will provide (as long as there is money to be made). Creating new industries that provide cheap electrical power is the shot in the arm that this country needs after we allowed this govt to ship all of our manufacturing jobs to Asia. If enough people buy these cars there are enough clever blokes that will pour some big money into ramping up the delivery of cheap elctricity, hydrogen whatever just no more oil. Whether its Owens Corning making composites for wind mill blades producing insane amounts of power compared to 10 years ago, thin film solar panel technology driving down the costs in a hurry we need to be after these industries before the rest of the world once again beats us to the punch. Germany is already way ahead on wind and China is making big moves in Solar. Nuclear is kinda of a panacea, the wait time for the reactor domes is nearly 12 years and oh yeah the waste...
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I don't condone waste but it is a part of life. Prices help drive waste out of a process. As prices increases, waste tends to diminish.
As for the govt, it is hard to not blame those morons. And, while we get to vote, we really don't get to change anything.
Think about it. Your Senator has a 6 year job with no performance review. The President, 4. It seems that you need MILLIONS of dollars to get elected, and who has that kind of money.
Face it, both parties are clearly only out to stay in power. that is the price of professional politicians.
As for me, I have only disdain for these turds as based on my entire life's experience of hearing their lies, they deserve it.
By the way, this is an equal opportunity bashing. No real difference between GOP and Dems. Obama and McCain would both sell their mother to get elected.
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06-24-2008, 08:55 AM
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well there will be a major house cleaning of govt this fall. Did you see today's consumer confidence report? Lowest numbers in 16 years or something.
I dunno I kind of see big changes in terms of personal consumption of food, fuel and credit. Three things that got us into this mess and so far behind Asia and Europe. This could be the begining of ths country becoming more "European"...getting thinner, driving smaller cars, etc.
This era of American excess where you order dinner and they bring you a 1000 calorie portion, bagels the size of a soccer ball, big gulps, Licoln Navigators the size of 1920's Packard, 50" plasma TV's in a small living room, its all done.
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