Porsche and J.D. Power

[Brucelee]

Warrany isn't bad for the Soltice. Box is 4/50K.



Covered for five years/100,000 miles


General Motors will warrant each 2008 and 2009 model year passenger car for 5 years, or 100,000 miles/160,000 kms. with no deductible, whichever comes first, from the original in-service date of the vehicle, for warrantable repairs which are required as a result of defects due to material and/or workmanship to the Powertrain components as listed below:

Engine
Cylinder head, block, timing gears, timing chain, timing cover, oil pump/oil pump housing, OHC carriers, valve covers, oil pan, seals, gaskets, turbocharger, supercharger and all internal lubricated parts as well as manifolds, flywheel, water pump, harmonic balancer and engine mount. Timing belts are covered until the first scheduled maintenance interval.

Transmission/Transaxle/Transfer Case
Case, all internal lubricated parts, torque converter, transfer case, transmission/transaxle mounts, seals, and gaskets.

Drive Systems
Final drive housing, all internal lubricated parts, axle shafts and bearings, constant velocity joints, axle housing, propeller shafts, universal joints, wheel bearings, locking hubs, front differential actuator, supports, front and rear hub bearings, seals and gaskets.

[Quickurt]

A good friend of mine bought a Solstice (sp?) last year. He is sick he has this piece of crap. It's been back to the dealer on a monthly basis to repeatedly fix the same fall apart, typical cheap crap problems. But thats the easy part to take. What he's really sick of are the repeated serious problems with the car. They have replaced front shocks and suspension several times and the replacement parts are just more of the same crap that failed the first, second, third, etc., times.
I stop by Brumos at least once a week, as my salesman and I are friends. I've known the parts manager for 35 years, as I actually twisted wrenches there many moons ago.
I almost never see a box in the service department. The service department whines because there's almost no work to do on Boxs and Caymans, especially compared to Porsches of only a few years ago.
As far as the negativity around here, well, I've seen it before. I used to have an RX8 and it was a great car for the money, but also had some problems. The RX8 forum was originally a fun place. Being a vendor to Mazda and having inside contact with both North America Operations and Mazda Japan, I did what I could to get people together with folks who could help solve their problems. Mazda bent over backwards to take care of their customers, even replacing engines in cars not-too-far out of warranty, as I've heard Porsche has also done. No manufacture is going to replace engines in cars years and thousands of miles out of warranty.
Before long the guys with the problems take over the entire forum and the rest of us walk away to places we can enjoy. Better yet, we take the time wasted listening to the whiners and spend it DRIVING OUR GREAT CARS.
The choice is yours.
If you don't like your Boxster, sell it, trade it, park it or burn it, it's yours. You are quite free to buy anything else in it's place and then go to their forum and complain how much you miss your Boxster.

[TimAustinW]

I got my 2002 Volkswagen Beetle brand new from the dealership, two weeks into it my headlights popped out when I braked too hard once at a stop light. That was just the beginning and the simplest of issues. I won't even go into the other stuff.

Nuff said. Don't lose perspective. The biggest two issues (RMS and cracked lining) with the Boxster is rare enough between owners. (Common enough to affect those unlucky few). Have you ever heard of Porsches having a laundry list of smaller issues like the friggin headlights popping out two weeks after purchase?

[Jaxonalden]

After reading the last couple of posts my confidence is building again, and that this forum is for people that love their Boxsters. And also for those of us looking for answers and advice on how to make them better and save a few bucks by working on them ourselves, not bashing 'em.

[rick3000]

I agree. The Solstice is not a very good car. They look great, and go fast but if you have ever been in one you'll know why you bought your Boxster instead.
Plus, the Solstice has no space, the trunk is big enough for one sweater and that is it. If you want to to travel for the weekend you have to get a setup like this:

[TimAustinW]

Talking about storage space. The Boxster RULES ON STORAGE!!!!!! It blows away all the other midengine roadsters. MR2, Solstice, Sky, etc.

You think the Solstice is bad...My car before my Boxster was a 2003 MR2 Spyder. The engine is in the back (even though it's a mid engine) so no trunk space back there.


If you pop the hood you'll find a spare, that's it...


This is all you get for storage, enough space for a duffel bag behind the seats....I love my Boxster...

[Brucelee]

I don't think the concerns about the Boxster's long term issues is "whinning." I do think the Porsche company should simply fix them. Any world class car that has an engine that implodes for no apparent reason, well, I think they should do something about that.

If you think we are exaggerating, this is your perogative. Since no company is going to admit that they have these issues (save Toyota and Honda) we are never going to see hard data.

I never suggested the Soltice was a "better car" than the Boxster.

It does have a better warranty on the drivetrain and it costs maybe 20 grand less.

Clearly GM is OK about its warranty and Porsche about theirs.

Again, I love the Box and would not own one without a warranty. If that is whinning, well, I am a whinner.

I have been called much worse.

[Quickurt]

I was not directing anything at you, Brucelee, I was stating a fact I witnessed at another, at one time, good forum. Let's not let those with problems overshadow the rest, or the rest will leave.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Quickurt

I was not directing anything at you, Brucelee, I was stating a fact I witnessed at another, at one time, good forum. Let's not let those with problems overshadow the rest, or the rest will leave.

Agreed. All is good!

[JCL12]

Originally Posted by TimAustinW

Talking about storage space. The Boxster RULES ON STORAGE!!!!!! It blows away all the other midengine roadsters. MR2, Solstice, Sky, etc.



If you pop the hood you'll find a spare, that's it...

I gotta bring this up..sorry it is off topic. How the heck does a boxster - a car with then engine in the back have a BIGGER rear trunk with the top down than a solstice - a car with the engine in the front?

It seems like every single 2 seat roadster has no storage space at all and the boxster literally doubles most of them in cubic feet of space. I can fit a massive full/oversized suitcase in the front truck, a large load of groceries in the back, golf clubs, muliple laptops in the back, etc. I dont get how other companies can't make a roadster practical for hauling crap around.

[LoveBunny]

Originally Posted by rick3000

I agree. The Solstice is not a very good car. They look great, and go fast but if you have ever been in one you'll know why you bought your Boxster instead.
Plus, the Solstice has no space, the trunk is big enough for one sweater and that is it. If you want to to travel for the weekend you have to get a setup like this:

Oh my! I take a bag about that size with me every single day I work. It fits perfectly in my back trunk. Not that I ever considered getting a solstice, but still, wow. That sucks!