Any Porsche exec's listening?

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Paul

IMO any two seat sports car is a toy.

So how much should a factory provided motor cost in a $50,000 car? I wonder how much a factory supplied motor costs for a Corvette which has a much less sophisticated motor? Remember Porsche ships them with most of the accessories but GM sends a long block that doesn't have the fuel injection, water pump, manifolds, etc.

No Porsche motor has been bullet proof. Cars are an expense, not an investment.

3-5K new for a chevy v8. Less for a rebuiltversion.

[Paul]

OK, now lets add (someone can confirm this list that's actually has received a new motor).

Intake manifold
Exhaust manifold
Fuel injection system
MAF
Sending units
Spark plugs, coils, and wires
water pump
front pulley
engine wiring harness
power steering pump
belt idlers, tensioner
shipping from Germany
2 year warranty
Devaluation of the dollar against the Euro
Oil Pan
Motor mounts?
alternator

[Paul]

How about $14000 for the Chevy? This one has more parts than the crate motors I've seen and it's for a $72,000 Z06.

CHEVY

[pbanders]

Originally Posted by Paul

How about $14000 for the Chevy? This one has more parts than the crate motors I've seen and it's for a $72,000 Z06.

CHEVY

The days of an "unsophisticated" Corvette motor are long gone. Still a lot cheaper in the HP/$ index than Porsche's offerings.

[Paul]

Does the Corvette have (I don't know the answers):

4 cams?

4 valves per cylinder?

Variable valve timing?

Pushrod valve activation?

[pbanders]

Originally Posted by Paul

Does the Corvette have (I don't know the answers):

4 cams?

4 valves per cylinder?

Variable valve timing?

Pushrod valve activation?

Nope on the 4 cams, 4 valves, and VVT, and of course, it has pushrods. That doesn't mean it isn't sophisticated, and it doesn't seem to need that stuff to make plenty of HP while delivering comparatively good fuel economy (17/24 mpg). The basic specifications are the same as Le Mans winning C5-R engine. 7.0L, 505 HP, 470 lb-ft torque. Aluminium block and heads, and you don't hear Corvette owners worrying about hitting the 7000 rpm redline with this motor. Titanium connecting rods and intake valves, sodium-filled exhaust valves, 11.0:1 compression. Dry sump lubrication.

That's a lot of engine for $14K. Considering that Porsches with comparable performance have engine replacement costs probably in excess of $30K, owners should expect at least similar performance, efficiency, and reliability than a Z06, and reasonably, should expect a lot more.

[Brucelee]

This is an interesting diversion. I can go down to Kragen and buy a rebuilt chevy v8 for under 2 grand.

Having said that, why is this relevant? If Porsche has a design flaw that runs over 11 years (IMS and RMS), don;t you think it is reasonable that they FIX THE D*** thing?

I love the Boxster but don't think we need to apologize for the arrogance or ignorance of the company.