05-27-2008, 09:42 PM
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My Boxster has Tip, too, it's an interesting tranny to drive. I've had manual boxes for ages, so like everyone else here, I'm well-versed in using a manual on the road and track. My Boxster has Tip because the car was the best deal I was looking at, and my wife isn't a big fan of manuals and I figured she'd like it more.
Turns out it's a pretty fun setup. As Jaxonalden says, it performs very well. I took my car on a 250 mile mountain run a few months ago, where I figured I'd have it under manual control the whole time. Turns out that I found that automatic mode worked better for the speeds and conditions I was driving in, as it was much faster at downshifting to the optimal gear for passing, did all the WOT shifts at redline, and held the gear when going off throttle after passing. I couldn't have done better manually. With extra HP of an S it would have been pretty awesome.
Sure, you lose the direct connection of a manual box, but for 99% of the driving you do on the street, it's pretty nice.
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05-28-2008, 03:33 PM
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Turns out a moderator can't even take a few days off to visit his grandson.
Anyway, lets all chlll out here. We will NEVER resolve this issue of driving at redline. If you want to hit the RL all the time, I hope you are doing it at the track because the street is likely not the place you want to be doing these speeds.
Having said that, if you want to blow up your engine, drive it PAST redline at all times. Also, put in cheap oil and drop the clutch as often as you can. Oh, and drifting is really good for the tires also.
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-28-2008, 03:37 PM
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Congrats on the grandfather thing!
I wonder how many grandfathers redline their Porsches.
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2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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05-28-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul
Congrats on the grandfather thing!
I wonder how many grandfathers redline their Porsches. 
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Thanks. It is a blast being a GF. The kid is a trip, and I love him totally. One of the compensations for getting older.
Not sure on the redline thing. I think time has changed what it means to be a GF.
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06-01-2008, 04:46 PM
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Someone else shares my point of view.
From:
http://www.autofarm.co.uk/pdf/Total911_July06.pdf
"That said, he and Steve say that, if
your engine’s going to fail, there’s not
much you can do to prevent it. Although
Nick has his own pet theory: “Jonathan
Palmer Motorsport has several 3.4-litre
cars which are driven hard on the track
every day,” he says. “These engines are
running fine, whereas maybe those that
have been driven more sedately seem to
suffer problems!”
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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06-01-2008, 05:07 PM
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Here's a grandfather not afraid of a redline!!
From another thread today on the same subject, the VVT means never needing to shift at redline.
Proved it out at Gainesville Dragway a few weeks ago. Fastest run of three was shifting at 6200, slowest was shifting at 7000.
If I felt like going out to the garage, I'd get the tickets.
Shifting at 6200 - 14.032 @99.98
Shifting at 7000 was about 14.6 and just over 97 mph.
2006 3.2 S
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06-01-2008, 05:18 PM
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I just like the rush to 7000 that my 2.7 has in 1st and 2ond....
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1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
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06-02-2008, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Quickurt
Here's a grandfather not afraid of a redline!!
From another thread today on the same subject, the VVT means never needing to shift at redline.
Proved it out at Gainesville Dragway a few weeks ago. Fastest run of three was shifting at 6200, slowest was shifting at 7000.
If I felt like going out to the garage, I'd get the tickets.
Shifting at 6200 - 14.032 @99.98
Shifting at 7000 was about 14.6 and just over 97 mph.
2006 3.2 S
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Don't forget that track situations often dictate driving at over the torque peak. For example, in the infield of Firebird here in Phoenix, it's better to keep the revs high (near 7K) than shifting up as you negotiate a series of tight turns, rather than shifting up and down. You'll run a faster lap time. Of course, if track time means the dragstrip, then what you're doing is the way to go.
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1970 Porsche 914 / 2003 Porsche Boxster / 2009 Honda Fit Sport Auto
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06-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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Location: Chicago
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Quickurt
Here's a grandfather not afraid of a redline!!
From another thread today on the same subject, the VVT means never needing to shift at redline.
Proved it out at Gainesville Dragway a few weeks ago. Fastest run of three was shifting at 6200, slowest was shifting at 7000.
If I felt like going out to the garage, I'd get the tickets.
Shifting at 6200 - 14.032 @99.98
Shifting at 7000 was about 14.6 and just over 97 mph.
2006 3.2 S
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Makes sense...
( keep in mind this chart is for a 2000 Non-S )
Nick
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