Subbie STI vs Boxster S Hwy run

[Sputter]

You did this on a public highway? Stupidity at it's finest.

Originally Posted by Adam

This was one of the best races I've ever been involved in. Wish I had a vid. My old buddy I've known since the 8th grade came up from Georgia to visit this weekend. He has I believe to be a 2002 STI but I'm not certain about the year. For those who don't know it has a turbo flat 4 with 300 hp and 300TQ from the factory. Anywho, it's stock except for a catback exhaust. He gave me a ride in it and I was impressed with the car, especially from a dig. I told him we need to run the Boxster S against it on the highway to see how things stack up. So, I get my car out and we get on the local interstate. We played around for a bit then we lined them up when traffic was all clear. We did a punch from 70mph with me in 3rd and he was in 4th. We were side by side up to about 100mph. I shifted to 4th and then he pulled a couple feet on me then he shifted to 5th and it was even again. I basically power shifted into 5th barely lifting off the gas so I didn't lose any ground. It DOOR to DOOR the rest of the way to 135ish mph. This was one of the closest and one of the most exciting races I've ever experienced. These two cars are virtually dead even on the highway. We were talking after the race about how it could be so close with the subbie having a 40+ hp advantage and 70 ft/lb tq advantage and we think it comes down to weight, aerodynamics, and power loss through the drivetrain. The boxster has approx 300lb weight advantage, judging from the look of the cars it cuts through the wind better and is more aero and we all know AWD is a disadvantage on the highway because of higher parisitic driveline power losses. We might race again tonight from a dig and if we do I'll post it up but I got feeling the boxster will get spanked. Thanks for reading my story.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sputter

You did this on a public highway? Stupidity at it's finest.

It was 10 pm and there was no traffic around. If anybody was in harms way it was just me and him. I don't race unless conditions allow it.

[Sputter]

I hope I don't see you in paper wrapped around a tree like others have done thinking the same thing man.

Originally Posted by Adam

It was 10 pm and there was no traffic around. If anybody was in harms way it was just me and him. I don't race unless conditions allow it.

Originally Posted by Adam

It was 10 pm and there was no traffic around. If anybody was in harms way it was just me and him. I don't race unless conditions allow it.

FYI, I'd do some in depth research into the laws of your state before you do that again. Assuming you never hurt yourself or anyone else, getting caught at speeds of 135 in some places will land your ass in jail, result in loss of license and in my state carries an extra surcharge of $1,500.00 above the normal speeding fines.

Update: I looked for you, you would have been nailed with reckless driving 55 points don't know it that's additive to the normal speeding or not here's a chart.

The Illinois Administrative Code, Title 92, part 1040.20(c) gives the following point values for these offenses:

* Reckless driving―55 points

* Squealing or screeching of tires―10 points

* Driving too fast for conditions―10 points

* Driving over the speed limit:

* 1 to 10mph over―5 points

* 11 to 14mph over―15 points

* 15 to 25mph over―20 points

* More than 25mph over―50 points

* Exceeding the maximum speed limit in a school zone―20 points

* Driving below the minimum speed limit―5 points

* Driving below the minimum speed limit on an Illinois tollway―20 points

* Not driving in the right-hand lane when proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic―20 points

* Exceeding the maximum speed limit on a bridge or elevated structure―10 points

[Adam]

So racing would be considered "reckless driving"? For some reason I thought it was call participating in a speed contest or something to that effect. Anyway, I know it's a high risk activity legally and otherwise so it's definately not something I would recammend doing on a regular basis. We knew the implied risks and did everthing possible to avoid a potentially bad outcome while still testing the cars against each other. Judging from the popularity of "kill stories" and racing threads, I think people have a genuine interest in how cars stack up in real life so that is why I am posting this.

Originally Posted by Adam

So racing would be considered "reckless driving"? For some reason I thought it was call participating in a speed contest or something to that effect. Anyway, I know it's a high risk activity legally and otherwise so it's definately not something I would recammend doing on a regular basis. We knew the implied risks and did everthing possible to avoid a potentially bad outcome while still testing the cars against each other. Judging from the popularity of "kill stories" and racing threads, I think people have a genuine interest in how cars stack up in real life so that is why I am posting this.

I quoted the reckless as I saw that in Illinois it is +40 over posted speed. I'm not judging you or any speeders, I've driven as fast on public roads but only with an officer in the passengers seat. I am just pointing out getting caught could really suck financially and otherwise, nothing else.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Adam

So racing would be considered "reckless driving"? For some reason I thought it was call participating in a speed contest or something to that effect. Anyway, I know it's a high risk activity legally and otherwise so it's definately not something I would recammend doing on a regular basis. We knew the implied risks and did everthing possible to avoid a potentially bad outcome while still testing the cars against each other. Judging from the popularity of "kill stories" and racing threads, I think people have a genuine interest in how cars stack up in real life so that is why I am posting this.

Candidly, it is so nice that you "knew the implied risks and did everything possible to avoid a potentialy bad outcome." I have no issue if you two kill each other.

I would be very worried about the innocents that you take with you.

Do us a favor, grow up or get off this forum.

[Dr. Kill]

Originally Posted by EE3racing

* Squealing or screeching of tires―10 points

This is a little silly.

[SilentThunder]

good job stickin it to the man. sorry the site mentality is rather close minded when it comes to racing. :P

[HB.]

I know how it feels when the adrenalin kicks in, and you crave to go for it. It happened to me the first week of owning my Boxster. Luckily nobody was hurt, but just over 15k worth of damage, and waiting almost 5 months for the body shop to repair all the damages, was a lesson taught hard. Guess I failed to mention I don't have that car anymore due to the racing accident! I'm on my second Box now, for some reason this dark blue model doesn't catch the attention like my previous black one.

I'm sure if you go at it again, on the track or strip, the STi will eat you alive from 0 - xxx

[Sputter]

It's not racing per se, it's the possible end results. It's tough driving a sports car within the speed limits but it's the consequences that are a kick in the teeth.

Originally Posted by SilentThunder

good job stickin it to the man. sorry the site mentality is rather close minded when it comes to racing. :P

[Cloudsurfer]

I had an 05 STi for roughly a year, and let me tell you, it will eat a Boxster in a straight line. If he really has an STi, he's clearly not driving it to its potential. The only real downside to the Subie is that it is a brick in the wind, and due to its gearing, is not a great autobahn car, though it was never designed to be either. Still, from a 3rd gear pull, he should have pulled on you pretty well.

As to the legality of all this, we all know its illegal and not the wisest thing to do.

Patrick

[Lil bastard]

"Stupid is as Stupid does..." - Forrest Gump