Most snow ever since 1966

[lucky_topher]

this is why i live in dallas

[insite]

you know how the GW alarmists are always predicting that this NEXT year YOU'LL SEE! there will be BAD hurricaines and LOTS of tornados, etc. and somehow they're always wrong?

well the folks that say GW is caused by solar activity told us that they could predict global temp fluctuations by predicting solar activity through extrapolation of known solar cycles. they tried that this year. you know what they said about 12 months ago? that 2007 would be the coldest on record in a long, long time. so far the GW alarmists are batting .000 and the solar activity climatologists are batting 1.000.

i hope this generates a LOT of debate and we can finally dodge the bad plolicies that were just about to cause us to waste huge amounts of $$$ at the altar of global warming.

[Dr. Kill]

Originally Posted by insite

well the folks that say GW is caused by solar activity told us that they could predict global temp fluctuations by predicting solar activity through extrapolation of known solar cycles. they tried that this year. you know what they said about 12 months ago? that 2007 would be the coldest on record in a long, long time. so far the GW alarmists are batting .000 and the solar activity climatologists are batting 1.000.

Yep - the Farmer's Almanac uses this methodology and their prediction this year was on target as usual. I wonder if Al Gore will have to give his prize back.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Dr. Kill

Yep - the Farmer's Almanac uses this methodology and their prediction this year was on target as usual. I wonder if Al Gore will have to give his prize back.

Politicians rarely give back anything of value.

But then, what is a Noble Peace Prize worth? Jimmy Carter has one.

Nuff said.

[Jump]

And here I've always thought that snow and the earth's climate were two different things. Amazing what you can learn here.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Jump

And here I've always thought that snow and the earth's climate were two different things. Amazing what you can learn here.

Would you agree that cold temperatures and snow are PART of the Earth's climate? It seems that heat and other natural manifestations of climate are used as evidence of GW. Why could not cold temps suggest that the warming is well, not acually happening?

Just a radical thought, never get published on CNBC or CNN.

[Brucelee]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14319334.200-not-warming-but-cooling-whatever-happened-to-globalwarming-it-seems-that-the-worlds-most-populous-areas-are-getting-coolerthe-culprit-this-time-is-the-aerosol-effect--reports-fred-pearce.html



Just when you think you got it all covered!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jump]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Would you agree that cold temperatures and snow are PART of the Earth's climate? It seems that heat and other natural manifestations of climate are used as evidence of GW. Why could not cold temps suggest that the warming is well, not acually happening?

Just a radical thought, never get published on CNBC or CNN.

What I will acknowledge is:

a) the MORE cold it is, the LESS likely it is to snow
b) if there is any truth to global warming it is going to present itself in long term trends, not yearly fluctuations. Anyone who believes that an abnormally warm year or an abnormally cold year proves or disproves the concept of global warming shouldn't be involved in the conversation.

[Dr. Kill]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

But then, what is a Noble Peace Prize worth? Jimmy Carter has one.

This was running through my mind too. Please don’t forget:

2004 winner - Wangari Maathai - created controversy by appearing to lend credibility to the theory that HIV was invented by white scientists to destroy black people.

1973 winner - Henry Kissinger – awarded for his work on the Vietnam Peace Accords, despite having instituted the secret 1969–1975 campaign of bombing against infiltrating NVA in Cambodia, the alleged U.S. involvement in Operation Condor—a mid-1970s campaign of kidnapping and murder coordinated among the intelligence and security services of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay—as well as the death of French nationals under the Chilean junta. He also supported the invasion of Cyprus resulting in approximately 1/3 of the island being occupied by foreign troops for 33 years.

1994 winner - Yasser Arafat – I don’t even need to get into why this is off-track

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by Dr. Kill

This was running through my mind too. Please don’t forget:

1973 winner - Henry Kissinger – awarded for his work on the Vietnam Peace Accords, despite having instituted the secret 1969–1975 campaign of bombing against infiltrating NVA in Cambodia, the alleged U.S. involvement in Operation Condor—a mid-1970s campaign of kidnapping and murder coordinated among the intelligence and security services of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay—as well as the death of French nationals under the Chilean junta. He also supported the invasion of Cyprus resulting in approximately 1/3 of the island being occupied by foreign troops for 33 years.

We always hear about the failures of our intelligence and covert based foreign policies, but rarely it's successes. You can't have one without the other. Covert action and Intelligence gathering is a necessary, if not entirely palatable, endeavor.

We cannot know what the world (and our place in it) would be if these had not taken place. We know of our failures because these policies are ultimately made known.

We have much greater transparency than say do the British, French, Republic of South Africa, the former Soviet Union and now the Russian Federation, the People's Republic of China, Israel, Syria, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Lybya, and on and on. Were they all as transparent as we are on such issues, were some of their files to see the light of day, we could well be regarded as saints in comparison.

[Dr. Kill]

Originally Posted by Lil bastard

We always hear about the failures of our intelligence and covert based foreign policies, but rarely it's successes. You can't have one without the other. Covert action and Intelligence gathering is a necessary, if not entirely palatable, endeavor.

I am not making a judgment on what the guy did. I don’t know enough about it to make a judgment. I just found the irony kind of funny that he won a Nobel Peace Prize for his work in Vietnam at the same time he was instituting bombing raids and having people killed over there. Right or wrong, that’s just funny - kind of like Libya being elected to chair the UN Human Rights Body…