This torques my shorts

[Rick V]

Ok I know we have all heard it before, "It's just a Boxster, it's not a real Porsche" I have had the misfortune of hearing this several times in the last 2 weeks. It realy gets on my nerves. (Like people who say Porsh, and not Porsch-a) I simply tell those people the Boxster is 100% a Porsche, just think of it as the natural progression of the 914-6.
The part that makes me the madest is that I have heard this from Boxster owners. They get a sour look, and asked to explaign it to me. "Why do you say that?" I love the deer in the headlight look that follows. So it isn't an aircooled 911, big deal, it IS a Porsche, and a fun one it is. I think the Boxster holds it's head up high, with a pride that you have to feel, not just look at.
Sorry for the venting, but where a better place to get this off my chest than a place where the people "get it"
Ok nothing to see here keep moving.

Who cares what they think? I heard it a lot more when I owned a 944. If you really feel the need to argue you might mention the heritage of the 550 Spyder, one of the most successful race car designs in Porsche history. As for the 911 crowd, just exactly where is the engine in the incredible performing RS Spyder? here's a hint dinosaurs it's not hung out over the ass of the rear wheels. In the end it doesn't matter to me. Many Americans judge sports cars by 0-60 and 1/4 mile, period. I remember Dodge had an ad way back when for one model they touted as faster to sixty than a Porsche 944, really! Hey Cochise, exactly what happened to the Dodge vehicle when the speedo swept past eighty? better yet, how did the Dodge do in the corner against the lowly 944? Either you get Porsche and love it or you don't. My pal just bought the Malibu and thinks it will cream the 2.5 Boxster and so it continues...

[Quickurt]

if you make such an ignorant comment, you don't know enough of the evolution of sports cars to make conversation. Tell them to recite to you how many purpose built sports racing cars are built with rear engine, how many are built with front engine/rear drive and how many are built mid-engine/ rear drive. You may also ask them why such front engine/rear drive cars as the COrvette and RX8 are putting the engine so far back under the dash........to try to duplicate the balance of a true mid-engine car.......that the engines must be removed to change spark plugs.
But then again, that still does not give the extreme low polar moment handling of the true mid-engine car.
When they look at you with those big deer in the headlight eyes over the extreme low polar moment handling..........simply walk away.

[Lil bastard]

From some quarters, that's always gonna be the rap on the Boxster - Chick Car, Not a Real Porsche, etc.

The bad rep on the 914, 924 and 928 persists to this day, and the same will be true of the Boxster, from some quarters as I said.

Save your breath about polar moment inertia, etc. - you're not gonna change anyone's mind.

Best to just get over it.

[wanna986]

Originally Posted by EE3racing

Who cares what they think? I heard it a lot more when I owned a 944. If you really feel the need to argue you might mention the heritage of the 550 Spyder, one of the most successful race car designs in Porsche history. As for the 911 crowd, just exactly where is the engine in the incredible performing RS Spyder? here's a hint dinosaurs it's not hung out over the ass of the rear wheels. In the end it doesn't matter to me. Many Americans judge sports cars by 0-60 and 1/4 mile, period. I remember Dodge had an ad way back when for one model they touted as faster to sixty than a Porsche 944, really! Hey Cochise, exactly what happened to the Dodge vehicle when the speedo swept past eighty? better yet, how did the Dodge do in the corner against the lowly 944? Either you get Porsche and love it or you don't. My pal just bought the Malibu and thinks it will cream the 2.5 Boxster and so it continues...

The Dodge Daytona and Chrysler Laser twins made that claim.

I believe, however, their claim was to 50. I think 50 mph was used partly because of the old national 55 mph speed limit and partly because, after 50, they took their time in visiting the rest of the speedo...

[Ofishbein]

I read once that Walter Rohrer was asked what it was like to drive the Carrera GT and his reply was: "try to imagine a Boxster with 600 hp". That's good enough for me.

[Gary in BR]

I have been known to be a little of a smarty at times, when I would here the its not a real porsche comment I would always look around real fast like they should not say that out loud then I would tell them, " Its not?!? You better go tell those guys at the Porsche dealership!"

[richv]

Ignore them they are ignorant. By the way my brother in law has a Corvette Z-6 and likes my 2004 Boxster, particularly the tiptronic.

[ChrisZang]

Rolling on the floor laughing

I loooooove your response.
BTW: The only people who ever diss my car do NOT own a Porschaaaaa.
So my standard response is usually: Oh, which model Porsche are you driving?

That shuts them up (or gets them even madder)

Oh, yes and of course there are the Carrera drivers who initially wave back when I greet them on the road and then withdraw their hands in shame when they figure out that they accidentally waved at a Boxster NOT at a Carrera cabrio with the top down

Originally Posted by Gary in BR

I have been known to be a little of a smarty at times, when I would here the its not a real porsche comment I would always look around real fast like they should not say that out loud then I would tell them, " Its not?!? You better go tell those guys at the Porsche dealership!"

[ChrisZang]

100% agreed, but quick correction, the correct spelling of his name is Walter Röhrl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_R%C3%B6hrl

Originally Posted by Ofishbein

I read once that Walter Rohrer was asked what it was like to drive the Carrera GT and his reply was: "try to imagine a Boxster with 600 hp". That's good enough for me.

[70Sixter]

Altho I've read about it I've not personally heard that "Not A Real Porsche" crap about Boxsters, but certainly a lotta folks in the 914 community have. There is even a NARP website and 914 Team NARP.

I agree that the Boxster has in its lineage Porsche #1, the 904, and the 914. It really bugs me that Porsche would like to have people forget it. Ever seen a mid-engine factory commemorative with the 914 or -6 included?

[kodabear]

Originally Posted by 70Sixter

Altho I've read about it I've not personally heard that "Not A Real Porsche" crap about Boxsters, but certainly a lotta folks in the 914 community have. There is even a NARP website and 914 Team NARP.

I agree that the Boxster has in its lineage Porsche #1, the 904, and the 914. It really bugs me that Porsche would like to have people forget it. Ever seen a mid-engine factory commemorative with the 914 or -6 included?

Hi guys, I'm pretty new to the board, just bought a 2000 boxster S about a month ago.

Porsche did commemorate the 914. They even released an official 1:43 scale model, and a factory pin, and poster. This was for the 30 jahre 914 reunion back in the mid 1990's. I don't think the stigma is Porsche's fault as much as the snobby 911 die hards who can't get over themselves.

As for the argument that boxsters, or 914,944,928 etc. are not real porsches, that's total bunk, my 86 944T was a much better car in both performance and comfort than my 87 carrera was. And my when I was looking for a new car I looked at 996's and decided on the boxster S because in my opinion it handled better and is more fun to drive. The price difference was not a factor.

Regards,

Jon

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by Rick V

It realy gets on my nerves. (Like people who say Porsh, and not Porsch-a)

I admit that i was one of the many that didnt like to say Porsch-a cause i thought most who pronounced it that way seemed pompus and douche-bag like haha, but since i mentioned that in a thread on this forum awhile ago... I've changed my ways and now say Porsch-a correctly and no longer say "Porsh". I figured, its a brand that desires respect so i can atleast pronounce the name the way it was intended to be pronounced... Long story short, im a douche-bag lol

Lil B,

cool post, I did see where the Dino prices have spiked. Believe it or not the Fiat version is a great looking car. I could have bought one for nine grand in 1974. Being in high school, that was out of the question. Saw one on Ebay once at 80K and unsold.

[Ofishbein]

To get back on track:

When I had my Dino (246GT), and people said it wasn't a real Ferrari, it didn't really bother me. After all, you can find photos of the Ferrari assembly line with Daytonas and Dinos coming off right next to each other. Then I had a 308 and people said it wasn't a real Ferrari because it didn't have 12 cylinders. Next was my 512bbi, but it wasn't a real Ferrari because it wasn't front-engined.

My point is, you will never win with some people There are a minority who feel it necessary to knock someone else's choice to validate their own sense of self-worth. Their punishment is having to live in that skin.

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by EE3racing

Lil B,

cool post, I did see where the Dino prices have spiked. Believe it or not the Fiat version is a great looking car. I could have bought one for nine grand in 1974. Being in high school, that was out of the question. Saw one on Ebay once at 80K and unsold.

I had a dear friend who loved all italian cars. He owned a pristine '68 Fiat Dino Spyder which won it's class at the 2004 Concorso d'Italiano at Pebble Beach. photo below:

Owen also owned a pristine Ferrari 275 GTS (which he autocrossed!) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/185275227/sizes/m/ , a Daytona Coupe', a Caterham Seven, a Fiat 124 Spyder, and a Sun Int'l. conversion Lotus Elise (1st Gen w/ a 2.0L Honda Vtec engine - one of the 1st legal Elise's imported into the country, 7 yrs. before Lotus introduced it here w/ the milder Toyota engine). Owen believed in driving these cars the way they were meant to be driven.

Sadly, Owen passed away from cancer barely in his mid-50's a year ago next week. All of us who knew, drove and wrenched with Owen miss him terribly.

[chig]

I ran into my ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend downtown in Austin while I was valeting my car. She came up to me and said "hi" and the first thing that came out of her boyfriend's mouth was, "that's a chick's porsche." I said, "Oh, which porsche do you have?" He was silent. My Ex started to laugh a little and he got pissed. He grabbed her arm and took off to the bar.

Later, she texted me and told me he had an impala and had a broken light. Oh well. Us Porsche owners always come out looking like the champ. Of course, unless they have a ferrari or something.

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by chig

I ran into my ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend downtown in Austin while I was valeting my car. She came up to me and said "hi" and the first thing that came out of her boyfriend's mouth was, "that's a chick's porsche." I said, "Oh, which porsche do you have?" He was silent. My Ex started to laugh a little and he got pissed. He grabbed her arm and took off to the bar.

Later, she texted me and told me he had an impala and had a broken light. Oh well. Us Porsche owners always come out looking like the champ. Of course, unless they have a ferrari or something.

You have alot of self control. I probably would have looked for his car in the parking lot and pissed on the door handle. :troll:

[Ofishbein]

Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster

... Long story short, im a douche-bag lol

I, too, am sadly in that camp - but I pronounce it "douch-a" bag.

[TimAustinW]

the next time you hear someone saying the 986 is not a real Porsche or "the poor man's Porsche" here's some ammo from Wikipedia....

Within a year of marketplace acceptance in the United States, the original Boxster was the recipient of many awards, including those listed:

* Car & Driver – One of the 10 Best Cars of 1997
* Automobile – Automobile of the Year
* Motor – 1997 Performance Car of the Year
* Autocar – Best Roadster in the World
* Motorweek – 1997 Drivers Choice for Best Sports Car
* The Philadelphia Inquirer – Best Sports Car of the Decade
* Newsweek – One of the Best New Products of 1997
* BusinessWeek – One of the Best New Products of 1997
* American Marketing Association – Best New Product of 1997
* Automobile Journalists of Canada – 1997 Car of the Year
* Automobile Journalists of Canada – Best Design of 1997

The Boxster has been on Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list eight times, from 1998 through 2003 and 2006 through 2008.

The Boxster S (986s) was rated as one of the top ten Porsches of all time by Excellence magazine.

The Boxster (in both 986 and 987 guise) is evo magazine's recommended buy in the 'Sports Car' category and has been ever since the model's introduction.