Boxster Killer? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

lexuspilot · 04-07-2005, 02:24 AM

Wow..I am a brand whore. Was I brand whore when I was driving my Focus a month ago?
I'd drive/buy a 350z, s2000, STI, or M3. I just didn't. Dude, I drove a focus and loved it. I was on Focaljet.com just like this site.

People judge so fast.

All I said, is I never have to qualify my Porsche purchase. Not that I would care what someone thought of my S2000 if I drove one.

And my screen name has nothing to do with car ownership.

Adam · 04-07-2005, 10:47 AM

I say to each his own. There are some people that are less concerned with brand appeal than others and want the most bang for the buck. Everyone knows that a person who buys an expensive Ferarri or Porsche isn't doing so just soley for the Performance. If that was the case why not just buy a Z06 and save yourself 100k. People who buy big name cars like Ferrari , Porsche, or Astin are trying to project an image. Usually that image is meant to say "hey I'm successful and I have money." Is there anything wrong with paying more for less? Everybody does it. Some people just do it on bigger purchases such as cars. Ever bought that high priced liquor when there is a less expesive brand that tastes just as good?? Just an example.

kajita · 04-07-2005, 10:58 AM

I agree 99% with Adam, but my wife will probably agree with Adam 200% with all of her Hermes, Gucci, Prada,....

why 99%? I just love them single malt whisky and Johnnie Walker Blue Label, yum yum.

RandallNeighbour · 04-07-2005, 11:16 AM

Adam, I'm going to have to disagree with you on the "buy a Z06 and save $100k" comment.

The Vette is a great straight line car, but can't keep up in the twisties when compared to a Porsche or a Ferrari. And the Porsche and Ferrari owners know this. Vettes will always be a Cheverolet as well in that the car's interior is sad to say the least. I believe this is also important to Porsche and Ferrari owners... they want their internal view to be a pleasurable experience as well.

I will also have to agree with you at the same time on the same point though... Carrerra Turbo owners as well as Ferrari owners are indeed trying to make a statement by driving what they drive. For some, it's a statement of passion for speed and handling. But for a sizeable percentage it's to give the appearance of superiority or success.

Adam · 04-07-2005, 12:01 PM

I really don't think you are giving the Z06 enough credit. We are all Porsche owners here but you have to give credit where it's due. The Z06 pulls 1.00g on the skid pad(which is better than any stock boxster) and slaloms just as quick as a boxster S. While it may or may not give superior feedback or steering feel or whatever it certainly can corner with the best of them. Just one look at it's ring times tells the story. Few production cars produce sub 8 min times and it's actually quicker than a 360 Modena at that track which is the measuring stick for many when a cars track/performance abilities are concerned. You are right about the interior....but my arguement comes purely from a performance perspective. Another way to look at it I guess is to ask this qustion. Is a more upscale interior worth the price of a pretty decent house?

RandallNeighbour · 04-07-2005, 12:44 PM

Adam, maybe you're right. If you have the time to download this 36 mb file, it's fun to watch the Lotus catch up with the Vette on the Nurburgring in the twisties and lose it's gain the second it flattens out...

http://www.iwantaporsche.net/Nurburgring_movies/Lotus_vs_Vette.mpg

Adam · 04-07-2005, 01:07 PM

I have dial-up so I won't be able to download at this time, but I have no reason to doubt what you say. The Lotus is an extremely capable car in the twisties.

Porschekid · 04-07-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Adam, maybe you're right. If you have the time to download this 36 mb file, it's fun to watch the Lotus catch up with the Vette on the Nurburgring in the twisties and lose it's gain the second it flattens out...

http://www.iwantaporsche.net/Nurburgring_movies/Lotus_vs_Vette.mpg

Awesome video man. Reminds me of Gran Turismo 4. I posted it up on another forum, I hope it doesn't mess with your bandwidth.

BuffaloBoxster · 04-08-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

People who buy big name cars like Ferrari , Porsche, or Astin are trying to project an image. Usually that image is meant to say "hey I'm successful and I have money."

Be careful, not everyone who bucks up for a car like that has image in mind. When you buy a Ferrari you get a singular purpose in design and the richest automotive and racing tradition of any marque anywhere period. To certain extent Porsche is similar, and it's a main factor in me deciding to go with a Boxster over its competitors. Aston Martin's history, althouh clouded a bit in the 80s, is also rich in sports car competition history and as of late they are doing a fantastic job reviving that tradition. They also have some of the sexiest styling around these days.

Some, ok a lot, of people do buy these marques to project the image that they have money, while others actually appreciate the cars enough to deserve them.

Some day, there will be a Ferrari in my garage. Doesn't matter if it's a new 575 Superamerica or a 308GTSi. And it's got nothing to do with people thinking I have money. Because we all know that after buying a Ferrari I won't have any money any more

PeterJoyce · 04-08-2005, 06:36 AM

HAHA! Thanks

RandallNeighbour · 04-08-2005, 07:26 AM

PorscheKid:

It ain't my bandwidth anyway. It's on one of my web sites hosted in a buddy's garage. Now he might email me or call me and ask me what the heck I've done, but it ain't slowing me down any!

ranbar2 · 04-08-2005, 07:29 AM

I never set out to buy a porsche. I just wanted a nice drop-top. I looked at the american cars and none of them floated my boat. Miata felt too much like a sardine can, especially since I am 6'1". The Audi looked like someone had slightly squashed a VW beetle, plus I was not enamoured with the interior. I just plain didn't like the styling of either the Z3, Z4 or S2000. The MR2 was tiny and had no storage space (my girlfriend asked the salesman where she would put her bag if we went on a weekend road trip; he said to remove the spare). But when I saw the boxster I fell in love. Beautiful and distinctive styling, great performance, auto drop top, comfy, if sparse, interior, TWO trunks. And, surprisingly, it was within my budget, albeit for a used 2000S. It had nothng to do with the name of the car or the image I was trying to project. It had everything to do with the car itself. It is now my daily driver. Some might call me a "poser" because I don't track or ac the car (although one of these days I am going to do a de at sebring). But I don't care what they think because I bought this car for ME.

Brucelee · 04-08-2005, 07:52 AM

I don't get all these "rules" that guys have on these cars, ie being a poser.

If I want to track my car, fine. If not, fine. I bought the car, not YOU (them). If YOU want to take your car to the track, fine, I am fine with that too!

When I am driving a 911 Turbo, it doesn't mean ANYTHING about me, just that I am having fun!

ranbar2 · 04-08-2005, 07:58 AM

Rich,

I never understood the "poser" argument either. It's as if they are saying that some people are less deserving of the car than others, or that they don't appreciate the car. Well, everyone appreciates their car for their own personal reasons. I mean, do we call people "posers" for buying Air Jordans even though they couldn't sink a basket if their life depended on it? Maybe they bought the shoes because they were comfortable. Why is it so different with a porsche?