Pagid E1 blacks

[Boxtaboy]

I have Pagid blacks (street version) on my front and rears, and they do last a long time and stop the car extremely well - imo, better than the OEM pads that came on the car. However, there are two negatives to these pads: 1) they produce a lot of brake dust and 2) the rears were squeaky. I had to use anti-squeal liners in the rear to negate the squeal.

[jmatta]

I've used the blacks on my 911 for endurance events, where ultimate braking wasn't necessarily as important as wear. They probably are a good street pad, but why would you pay the price when "other" street pads are far less expensive?

I'll look into the liners, I read in an article that rotors need to be prepared for use. A non directional scuff with sandpaper was reccommended, anyone know about that? I'm going to check with Zimmerman, I'll report back.. As for Jmata, the pagids were cheaper than the texstars as were the rotors compared to Performance Products, all ordered from Toronto.

[dcporsche99]

Hi,
My brother-in-law used the Pagid Black as well on his 911 and had the same issue as Boxtaboy. Unfortunately, he ended up changing them back to new OEM pads because nothing he and his Porsche mechanic tried worked.

Personally, I use Mintex (red box) and they've been very effective. But, I guess it also depends on one's driving style. Are you planning on tracking your car??

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

Hi,
My brother-in-law used the Pagid Black as well on his 911 and had the same issue as Boxtaboy. Unfortunately, he ended up changing them back to new OEM pads because nothing he and his Porsche mechanic tried worked.

Personally, I use Mintex (red box) and they've been very effective. But, I guess it also depends on one's driving style. Are you planning on tracking your car??

No, supposedly the E1 blacks are street pads and easy on the rotors. If your Bro in law had the racing type, they are known to squeel but be effective fro the track.

[dcporsche99]

From what he told me back then, they were the street version. I think he just had the misfortune of taking the advice from someone who was selling the product rather than doing his own research. But that's why this forum is extremely helpful!

Anyway, let us know how it turns out.

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

From what he told me back then, they were the street version. I think he just had the misfortune of taking the advice from someone who was selling the product rather than doing his own research. But that's why this forum is extremely helpful!

Anyway, let us know how it turns out.

Funny you should say that, I already made sure I can swap the pads for whatever else I want, that's why I'm asking in the first place. The OEM pads squeel a bit till you really press hard then they are ok for the rest of the trip. I don't think any pad will negate all noise, I'm just not looking to make it worse.

[dcporsche99]

Well, nice job on taking care of that issue. Sounds like good 'ol customer service! What shop is that?