these are the people that piss me off!!! - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

babyakiro · 12-12-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

No need for the attitude. If Porsche outsources manufacturing to some other company, the car is still legally a Porsche. If you want to use some other definition, then you are free to. If Porsche Outsourced the manufacturing of its beloved 911, would you not call that car a Porsche?

Since Porsches ASSEMBLED in Germany contain many outsourced parts (the transmissions are made in Japan), I would suggest your distinction is rather useless in everyday use.. At the end of the day, the nameplate, the title, the legal manufacturer are all Porsche.

Again, lets watch your tone if you choose to respond. This topic is certainly not worth any bickering.

Firstly, it was not my distinction but your distinction.

By defult that makes your distinction useless in everyday use.

I never made any 'distinction' other than a light-hearted remark about Skoda's.

I'm purely (albeit with a modicum of dry humour) seeking some clarity as you were appearing to set a definitive & indisputable criteria of what a real Porsche.

Secondly, if you are so quick to warn me to watch my tone, how about a warning regards the offensive racist tones used by some members when reffering to Japanese sports cars?

Lastly, I apologise if you were offended by my tone. I see this as bantering not bickering.

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Brucelee · 12-12-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by babyakiro

Firstly, it was not my distinction but your distinction.

By defult that makes your distinction useless in everyday use.

I never made any 'distinction' other than a light-hearted remark about Skoda's.

I'm purely (albeit with a modicum of dry humour) seeking some clarity as you were appearing to set a definitive & indisputable criteria of what a real Porsche.

Secondly, if you are so quick to warn me to watch my tone, how about a warning regards the offensive racist tones used by some members when reffering to Japanese sports cars?

Lastly, I apologise if you were offended by my tone. I see this as bantering not bickering.

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That may be. However, I will once again ask you to tone it down. We can all have fun here or we can make this like an argument.

I prefer fun.

Again, you are free to define a "Porsche" with any criteria you like.

Brucelee · 12-12-2007, 11:32 AM

I think we all enjoy driving our Porsche Boxsters. Why would other people's immature comments make any difference to us????????

JackG · 12-12-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

I think we all enjoy driving our Porsche Boxsters. Why would other people's immature comments make any difference to us????????

110% in agreement with you , BL. But you've stepped over the line calling baby immature.

tboyer · 12-12-2007, 11:48 AM

LOL, not a big fan of popcorn, I love me some Skittles though, anyone else?

timothy · 12-12-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tboyer

LOL, not a big fan of popcorn, I love me some Skittles though, anyone else?

Skittles huh. Were you recently in Scottsdale, Arizona???

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/12/05/az.naked.shoppers.ktvk?iref=videosearch

racer_d · 12-12-2007, 12:18 PM

You know what pisses me off? People using up bandwidth to show how other people bash things you love, and then you bash them for liking what they like.

I guess you could say "tolerance" is the key. If people didn't want variety, life would truly suck.

tboyer · 12-12-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by timothy

Skittles huh. Were you recently in Scottsdale, Arizona???

LOL I'm so "poor" I can't afford pants

babyakiro · 12-12-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

That may be. However, I will once again ask you to tone it down. We can all have fun here or we can make this like an argument.

I prefer fun.

Again, you are free to define a "Porsche" with any criteria you like.

BL -

I prefer fun too.

But once again if you're asking me to tone it down then I'll ask you not to involve yourself in namecalling.

Saying that I'm immature is stepping out of line.

Those of you using racist tones to describe Japanese cars are also out of line.

I will re-iterate, most of what I'm saying is tinted with sarcasm & dry humour, I'm having as much & if not, more fun with this thread as you guys are, but if you feel that I'm overstepping your boundaries then ban me if you feel the need. I'm a guest in your house afterall.

DJ - I hear ya.

JackG - I like your JackG Boxster. However it's now NOT a REAL Porsche anymore! omg! what now!??!?

blackONblack - Infinity's are actually re-badged Nissans? the G35 is still a pretty nice car & the 350Z on which it's based is a damned good one.

If my Box was a re-badged Hyundai I still wouldn't care. It wouldn't change the things I like about it. It wouldn't make it any less of a car than say... a VW Cayenne or Audi Gallardo or even a Ferrari Punto.

My comments regarding Valmet were not pandantic for the sake of being argumentative. It was a light-hearted side swipe at BL stating for once & for all and indisputably that a Porsche is a real Porsche when it's made by Porsche.

Again no offense intended here. It's all light-hearted banter.

Now pass me some Skittles...

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12-12-2007, 01:28 PM

dear Baby, the g35 is built on the same platform as the 350Z, my friend worked for Nissan during the years those vehicles were introduced. I can't see how saying one is rebadged stabs at Japanese honor, relax! Last week, another mechanic suggested FIAT meant First Italian Attempt at Transportation. I'm one hundred percent Italian, I knew he was joking, I didn't phone any Uncles in black Caddys...

babyakiro · 12-12-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xusmnimij

dear Baby, the g35 is built on the same platform as the 350Z, my friend worked for Nissan during the years those vehicles were introduced. I can't see how saying one is rebadged stabs at Japanese honor, relax! Last week, another mechanic suggested FIAT meant First Italian Attempt at Transportation. I'm one hundred percent Italian, I knew he was joking, I didn't phone any Uncles in black Caddys...

Who are you to tell me to relax!?!?!? HOW DARE YOU!?!?!? go to hHEELLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j/king aside...

Of course I know the G35 is essentially a 4 seat 350Z with aInfinity badge. I'm not that dumb!

I'm not saying that I'm insulted by people telling me the fact.

I'm referring to the racist remarks made by people at the begining of this thread that no-one here seems to mind, but as a person of Japanese origin I do find offensive.

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Brucelee · 12-12-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by babyakiro

Who are you to tell me to relax!?!?!? HOW DARE YOU!?!?!? go to hHEELLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j/king aside...

Of course I know the G35 is essentially a 4 seat 350Z with aInfinity badge. I'm not that dumb!

I'm not saying that I'm insulted by people telling me the fact.

I'm referring to the racist remarks made by people at the begining of this thread that no-one here seems to mind, but as a person of Japanese origin I do find offensive.

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Are you saying that you consider someone who calls a Japanese-built sports car a "rice-rocket" is a racist?

Just checking.

Brucelee · 12-12-2007, 02:51 PM

Noun 1. racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
racialist
bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination"
2. racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
anti-semite, antiblack
discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge.

Actually, I always thought of the term "rice rocket" in a positive light, i.e, a very very fast sports car originated in Japan or other parts of Asia.

Early versions were the 240ZX, Datsun 5000 etc.

Nothing wrong with those cars IMHO.

Northing wrong with the current 350ZX either.