these are the people that piss me off!!!

[HB.]

Grizzly, your post is awesome, thanks for the good laugh.

Back to reality, until one of these so called "real car guys" has the balls to say I'm a poser to my face for driving a Boxster, there is nothing for me to sweat.

[xxxalexxxx]

oh well, people have the right to have their stupid opinions. i find it funny how guys bash each other on what they drive...i don't care what people think of me when they see me in the Boxster because i drive it for myself because I enjoy driving it! On the other hand, I kinda have to agree with Kirk, there's some people who would buy a Boxster just because it's a Porsche so they can tell people they drive a "Porsche". I know a few people like this but i don't really care about them because they're just as ignorant as the person on the Nissan forums.

I've been around Porsches all my life as my dad collects them and I get just as excited driving my "bottom of the line" Porsche as i do driving my dad's "top of the line" Porsche.

point being; people are idiots and we shouldn't pay attention to them

[super66]

that was hilarious grizz...altho I wanted to chime in and defend my wife's Murano, until I realized that I can't....cause I hate it's guts...and if I could take the step and justify buying another poor man's porsche Cayenne (non S) I would in a second! best handling SUV out there.....

but so is life that one porsche payment is quite enough for me as far as the infinit G35 goes, that was the original car I was going to purchase, I must thank Infiniti for the producing the most boring, lame, uninspiring test drive ever that rove me to the boxster

the 350....ummm....they looked better in the 90's....and the new one, well they copied the TT but the TT still looks much better...

[husker boxster]

In the 2.5 yrs I've had my Box, I've had tons of compliments from the people I run into. The only negative comment I got was back in Sep. I decided to drive the Box to the Neb - Wake Forest game in NC. On the way out I stopped in Chicago for a Cubs game. Scored a great parking spot just outside Wrigley "Stadium" (as Jeff Gordon calls it) on Waveland Ave. Had some time to kill before the game, so I was just hanging out by the car. A group of late teens walk by (3 guys, 2 girls) and the pack leader says "You oughta drive a real Porsh". I didn't bother engaging him but I thought to myself "Yeah, like the one YOU drive". I bet if I offered to trade keys with him he would've been excited.

As far as the 350Z crowd is concerned, they've bought the top of the line car in Nissan's offerings so they probably feel pretty good about themselves while us poor Boxster owners are just "entry level". Not sure what the G35 people are thinking. My sister bought a 350Z last Jan and I'll have a chance to drive it in a couple of weeks. I'm sure it's a nice car. She drove mine last year and was impressed but wasn't too excited about some of the reliability issues.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't need someone else's approval for what I choose to drive. I wave at the 911 guys that I meet and don't care if they don't wave back. If someone doesn't like my car, that's their problem not mine. I still have permagrin.

[blinkwatt]

Why is it all 350Z owners I've met are hard headed?

My friend got one,02' w/ the button pushing tranny not the real manual. I saw him at the gym one day,wanted to race swear his 350z was faster than my Box. I couldn't resist laughing as he pulled up to me putting his car in P(ark) and he started revving his engine.

[redman12]

I have to lol at Grizzly's comparison I couldn't breathe as soon as I saw the the nissan without mugs.

[tboyer]

bought a Nissan Altima SE-R (very quick and fun) as a daily driver a couple of years ago. I'm constantly driving by the zillions of other Altima's on the road yelling "get a real Altima" sarcasm

As for 350Z owners, I have a good friend who drives his 350Z like a total idiot, going to kill himself in it. Comments like those posted are coming from morons (u know who u r) who have no regard for the rest of us out there on the roads, it makes no absolutely no difference what they're driving. Funny, because my model aviation club has similar issues, unless you're flying a scratch built WWII plane or something 50% to scale, you're a poser. They can stay on the left side of the field and life as far as I'm concerned, which isn't much.

PS Griz, loved the pics and captions

[cvhs18472]

When i was in the market for a new car for my wife we test drove all kinds of cars, from BMW to Honda s2000. I have to admit that the Z wasn't bad except that if you and your wife or GF wanted to go to the market you couldn't get any more than would fit on your lap. She ended up getting a Volvo C-70 Rag Top. Real nice car. When I started to look for a replacement for my 64 MGB I went and drove a Boxster. I have had sports cars all my life and I can honestly say that there are few experiences like driving a Boxster through the twisties. The Z may be quicker on the straights but as someone once said, " Lets race without using brakes". For someone who wants to drive around town with the top down and have people look at them , maybe the Z is the right car , but for people who want to drive their car the Boxster is the better choice. Different strokes. Ed

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Boxster owners seem to get bashed from every angle and camp.

The 911 air cooled boys say it's not a real Porsche if it has a radiator or the engine isn't hanging out the back.

At some point, you just gotta decide what you drive is fine because it was your choice.

C'mon Randall, My Boxster is as much a Porsche as my SC. You can tell when you drive it.

[insite]

Originally Posted by blkboxster

HERES a quote my Cuz sent to my from the G35/350z forum

funny thing is, i have a G35 coupe in addition to the box. the G is nice and will crush me in a straight line, but the boxster, with an 80HP deficit, positively SPANKS it on the race track.

some people just can't get their arms around the fact that many people who have driven all sorts of Porsche prefer the Boxster / Cayman to the 911. Or that a new Cayman S is faster than a 996.

[Brucelee]

Car "purists" make me laugh. They run around calling other folks "posers" which I assume they mean that they are the only REAL men who drive REAL cars.

Kind of sad really; take pitty on them!

After all, it is the Christmas season, time for charity and forgiveness.

And, as Tiny Tim remarked......

God bless us, everyone!

[JackG]

Originally Posted by DaveE

C'mon Randall, My Boxster is as much a Porsche as my SC. You can tell when you drive it.

We know that, and you know that, but there are many that don't know it, or choose not to believe.

Both times I've pulled up beside a 911 at a traffic light or on the road, I've tried to wave and smile and just say hello. Both times I've gotten the "I'm superior" treatment. I don't understand it, but it's very real.

Also, I will not be renewing my PCA membership next year. Our local chapter has a few good guys, but the core group, including the president, is made up of a clique of club racers that drive mostly 911s. If you're not one of them, you're ignored at the meetings, looked down upon, just generally made to feel like you're not worthy.

Screw 'em. Most of them are a gold chain away from driving a 'vette anyway.

[cas951]

I guess I have 2 of Porsche's poor man's Porsche. 02 Boxster S and 88 944 turbo S. I've driven 993's and 996's from my friends. They just did not give me the thrill I wanted. When I drove the 993 it just reminded me so much of my 72 VW bug. The sound, the burnt oil air smell in the cabin which is typical from air cooled heaters. I floored it a few times and it was no match with my turbo S. I've had people tell me to buy a real Porsche which I just ignore. I've had people with 911's that gave me thimbs down when I was next to them in my turbo. I just smoked them when they tried to out pace me and I give them a thumbs down. Boxster's and 944's are hard to beat when it comes to handling and satisfaction.

One last comment on the subject, the new RS production limited edition celebrates the connection of the Boxster to the 550 spyder. Many debate whether the cars have a true union, despite the fact that the company that built both models says they do. The 550's were not powerful engined rockets, they were balanced track scathing ballerinas, beating many cars with higher horsepower. The 550 was one of the companies most successful racers. Excellence had a great article recently for those interested. Back to the 944 for a moment, the 924, even more maligned, came is a little package known as the 924 carerra GT. In an article of favorite cars from years past, many professional Porsche drivers chose the 924 GT as their favorite. As Mr. T might say, I pity the fool who doesn't recognize the signature boxed rockers, hood scoop and what it means, 210 HP puts it right in Boxsterland and the handling is superb. As the other guy said, to each his own, the 350Z is no slouch car to be sure.

[Brucelee]

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

.

The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

who mentioned legal liability? That has nothing to do with who MADE your beloved Porsche.

Fact: Valmet Automotive Inc. made your Porsche NOT Dr. Ing. h.c. F.Porsche AG - do you want to dispute that?

Your own words were:

"Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company"

Are you suddenly changing your judgement criteria on REAL Porsches to suddenly encompass all cars that ultimately have legal liability to Porsche?

If that's the case my cousin's Skoda Octavia is a real Porsche too!


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[unklekraker]

Grizz, Nick, Blink, DJ, cas951 and everyone else...who want's popcorn? Let me know, so I could go to Costco and buy a bulk size..I think this will be good for awhile

[TimAustinW]

Originally Posted by blkboxster

.... poor man's "Porsche".....

Poor man's Porsche, maybe. But hey even the bottom end boxster is nearly $20,000 more than the bottom end 350z. Boxster: Starting MSRP: $45,600

350Z: Starting MSRP: $27,900

This guy can suck my exhaust. Even the least expensive Armani suit is better than the best suit from JCPenny. I doubt if that guy would turn down a Boxster. It's not always about speed. It's also about handling and I hate to agree with this guy but I do get some satisfaction when I look down and see the Porsche emblem on the steering wheel. There is something in a name and I think Porsche has proved that. If Ferrari put out a $50,000 roadster I'd probably buy one of those too