these are the people that piss me off!!!

[rick3000]

These are a bunch of people that have never driven a Porsche, hate Porsche's because they don't have one, and feel that insulting people will make them feel better about not having a Porsche.
I have nothing against 350Z or other cars, but them calling us posers when there driving Japanese rice rockets that mimic, real sports cars, like any Porsche is just pathetic.
I hate people who say it's a, "poor man's Porsche," at least it isn't a poor man's car.

I don't normally get this upset, and I would never say the above unless I was talking to some jerk. Let's see how they like it when we insult there cars.
Also, my dad had a 944 for 16 years, it was a great car, and by no stretch of the imagination a poor man's Porsche.

[Kirk]

The dude's not totally wrong. There certainly are some people who would buy a Boxster just because it's a Porsche. Throwing a blanket over all Boxster owners and calling them all posers is just wrong though. Saying it's not a real Porsche just shows he hasn't actually driven one! These cars are truly amazing to drive.

Honestly when I bought my Boxster I got it because I'm a car guy and wanted a sexy, well performing, rear drive car. As such the standard Boxster, although still a great car, was not really an option for me, so I got an S. I was quite surprised at people's reactions. Other people obviously cared more about the fact that it was a Porsche than I did!!! I appreciate the good looks, performance, and as an engineer myself, especially appreciate the fine German engineering and design of the Boxster.

Personally I would prefer that people look at my car and appreciate it for what it is rather than who makes it. I would like people to see me drive by and think, "Wow, cool car, what kind is that?". This weekend I finally finished debadging my car. I've got a carbon fiber hood with no hood crest. I've got aftermarket wheels with no Porsche center cap (used to have nice colored ones), and this weekend I took off the Boxster rear trunk badge. I did keep the "S" though. I repainted it bright red and mounted it back in the center/bottom of the rear trunk. The only thing exterior on my car that says Porsche now are the red brake calipers... Oh well, it should still keep 'em guessing. hehehe

[Grizzly]

Fellas, fellas, before you guys get all upset. Let's think about this. Thie original post came from a Nissan forum, right? Maybe these guys are on to something. Maybe we're such Pooorsh posers that we've been blinded by the nameplate and don't even realize that our money would be much better spent on the far superior Nissan automobile.

Let's compare...

Bottom of the line Porsche...



Bottom of the line Nissan...


Pretty nice. Let's look at the top of the line...

Top of the line Porsche...



Top of the line Nissan...



Okay, okay. How about their trucks? Nissan is known for their trucks, right?

Porsche truck...



Nissan truck...



See! It's just as I suspected! You guys jumped the gun. Nissan is the clear winner here. I'm headed out to the dealer right now. You think they make that killer truck in a hybrid?

[unklekraker]

Can someone go to G35/350z forum and knock the senses out of them

[nola911]

I think I will sleep just fine tonight.

[9eighty6]

Grizzly, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Thanks bro

[j.fro]

My wife has a 2004 G35 6MT coupe. I've got a 2000 986 S. The G35 is a nice car, but it's no Porsche (Boxster or otherwise). The get-up-and-go is there, and it looks fine, but the build quality just ain't the same. She's got a creak/pop coming from the rear of the car that Infinity has a TSB for. The dealer has had the car twice and can't solve the problem. On top of that, bits in the interior that are painted plastic that I know will delaminate eventually. I guess the soft-touch Porsche interior is kind of like this, but not really. I like her car, and I'm glad she's got it. It's nice to have something like that with a trunk and plenty of cargo space, but she'll NEVER keep up in the twisties!

[baseball]

One day maybe Michael Dell will make enough money to buy a 911, until then he'll have to make do with his poor man's Porsche

http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/billionaire/10-michael_dell.html

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by baseball

One day maybe Michael Dell will make enough money to buy a 911, until then he'll have to make do with his poor man's Porsche

You're not too far off with this statement. Dell's stock is in the crapper!

[HB.]

Grizzly, your post is awesome, thanks for the good laugh.

Back to reality, until one of these so called "real car guys" has the balls to say I'm a poser to my face for driving a Boxster, there is nothing for me to sweat.

[xxxalexxxx]

oh well, people have the right to have their stupid opinions. i find it funny how guys bash each other on what they drive...i don't care what people think of me when they see me in the Boxster because i drive it for myself because I enjoy driving it! On the other hand, I kinda have to agree with Kirk, there's some people who would buy a Boxster just because it's a Porsche so they can tell people they drive a "Porsche". I know a few people like this but i don't really care about them because they're just as ignorant as the person on the Nissan forums.

I've been around Porsches all my life as my dad collects them and I get just as excited driving my "bottom of the line" Porsche as i do driving my dad's "top of the line" Porsche.

point being; people are idiots and we shouldn't pay attention to them

[redman12]

I have to lol at Grizzly's comparison I couldn't breathe as soon as I saw the the nissan without mugs.

[RandallNeighbour]

Boxster owners seem to get bashed from every angle and camp.

The 911 air cooled boys say it's not a real Porsche if it has a radiator or the engine isn't hanging out the back.

At some point, you just gotta decide what you drive is fine because it was your choice.

[Brucelee]

Calling a 350 ZX names is the same as calling a Boxster names.

Surely we have more important things to do than to respond to the posts like the original?

I can't imagine why what someone else thinks of my car matters should matter to me?

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Boxster owners seem to get bashed from every angle and camp.

The 911 air cooled boys say it's not a real Porsche if it has a radiator or the engine isn't hanging out the back.

At some point, you just gotta decide what you drive is fine because it was your choice.

C'mon Randall, My Boxster is as much a Porsche as my SC. You can tell when you drive it.

[JackG]

Originally Posted by DaveE

C'mon Randall, My Boxster is as much a Porsche as my SC. You can tell when you drive it.

We know that, and you know that, but there are many that don't know it, or choose not to believe.

Both times I've pulled up beside a 911 at a traffic light or on the road, I've tried to wave and smile and just say hello. Both times I've gotten the "I'm superior" treatment. I don't understand it, but it's very real.

Also, I will not be renewing my PCA membership next year. Our local chapter has a few good guys, but the core group, including the president, is made up of a clique of club racers that drive mostly 911s. If you're not one of them, you're ignored at the meetings, looked down upon, just generally made to feel like you're not worthy.

Screw 'em. Most of them are a gold chain away from driving a 'vette anyway.

[cas951]

I guess I have 2 of Porsche's poor man's Porsche. 02 Boxster S and 88 944 turbo S. I've driven 993's and 996's from my friends. They just did not give me the thrill I wanted. When I drove the 993 it just reminded me so much of my 72 VW bug. The sound, the burnt oil air smell in the cabin which is typical from air cooled heaters. I floored it a few times and it was no match with my turbo S. I've had people tell me to buy a real Porsche which I just ignore. I've had people with 911's that gave me thimbs down when I was next to them in my turbo. I just smoked them when they tried to out pace me and I give them a thumbs down. Boxster's and 944's are hard to beat when it comes to handling and satisfaction.

[babyakiro]

I tested both the 350Z & the G35 before deciding to go for the Boxster.

They are NOT just 'rice rockets' that mimic real sports cars like Porsches.

The 350Z is an outstanding car which handles extremely well, is powerful & quick and is a real alternative to the Boxster/Z4/TT group of sports cars.

They have great build integrity & no IMS or RMS problems.

The G35 is pretty much a 350Z with back seats.

I can't believe people on Porsche forums bash the 350Z with racist 'rice' comments & people on 350Z forums bash the Boxster for 'not being a real Porsche'

Nothing much wrong with either of them. It's just horses for courses. Not everyone will have the same tastes.

In the end the Boxster fitted my criteria more than the 350Z/G35 did, but so what? Does it mean I'm a poser for not buying a real Porsche? Does it make me NOT a REAL driving enthusiast for considering teh 350Z/G35?

I'm just pleased that manufacturers such as Nissan can be bothered to make cars as focussed & as sporting in nature as the 350Z these days, especially when rivals, Toyota, Mazda & Honda have no current alternatives. (no decent Supra? weak RX-8? & no NSX?) I'm also pleased that Porsche make an amazing range of 'affordable' sports cars to sit below their expensive (well, too expensive for me anyways!) 911 range.

If manufacturers have to build Cayenne's or Sentra's or Altima's or whatever else to be able to fund development & manufacture of the cars do I like then so be it. I'm not about to judge them for that or judge the people who buy them.

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One last comment on the subject, the new RS production limited edition celebrates the connection of the Boxster to the 550 spyder. Many debate whether the cars have a true union, despite the fact that the company that built both models says they do. The 550's were not powerful engined rockets, they were balanced track scathing ballerinas, beating many cars with higher horsepower. The 550 was one of the companies most successful racers. Excellence had a great article recently for those interested. Back to the 944 for a moment, the 924, even more maligned, came is a little package known as the 924 carerra GT. In an article of favorite cars from years past, many professional Porsche drivers chose the 924 GT as their favorite. As Mr. T might say, I pity the fool who doesn't recognize the signature boxed rockers, hood scoop and what it means, 210 HP puts it right in Boxsterland and the handling is superb. As the other guy said, to each his own, the 350Z is no slouch car to be sure.

[Brucelee]

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?