Help! Good deal or not?

[Even Steven]

So do you guys think this particular vehicle is considered new or used? Is Porsche different than most brands in that if the vehicle was never registered, it can be sold as new even with some miles on it?

Also, how could they start the clock on the warranty if the vehicle is being sold as new? What am I missing here?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Even Steven

So do you guys think this particular vehicle is considered new or used? Is Porsche different than most brands in that if the vehicle was never registered, it can be sold as new even with some miles on it?

Also, how could they start the clock on the warranty if the vehicle is being sold as new? What am I missing here?

That's not a used vehicle if it's never been titled. All Porsches have some miles on them. I read somwere every Porsche that leaves the factory is taken for a test drive by the facility to ensure everything is in working order. Plus, it could be taken for a test drive or two at the dealership. People do test drive these cars. The warrany should start from the date of purchase.

If the car has everything you want (options, colors and etc.) I say it is a really good deal. That is a 20% discount.

I don't think you can get a 20% discount on a 2007...S or base. Most would consider a 15% a very good deal.

Can you get a better price than $44K??? That depends on your negotiating skills and current market conditions for Porsches and Boxsters in your area.

For an MSRP of $55K that must be a highly optioned Base. I would recommend getting a lesser optioned S for the near same money.

Good luck...and good negotiating.

[SD987]

id take an 06 S over 05 base, but i cant see this as a real reason....wheels and tires are not that expensive man, compared to loss of money on one car, loss of money on that car to get it registered when you bought it, and then register the new car, and as soon as you drive it off you loose money.

As I stated I was referring to any of the 19" 9X7 OEM rims. Even not "new" takeoffs are generally north of 3K for the rims. PS2s or similar run 3-400 apiece. Sure one could add aftermarket crap-rims and fit Kumhos or the crap tire du jour on the car (not referring to anyone in particular or their car )but that wasn't the scenario described.

I don't know, I consider 4-5K for a rim upgrade to be expensive, which is why I bundled the desire to upgrade rims in with the car switch. Perhaps I just don't have the vast resources that you do.

[JackTs2K]

Originally Posted by Even Steven

So do you guys think this particular vehicle is considered new or used? Is Porsche different than most brands in that if the vehicle was never registered, it can be sold as new even with some miles on it?

Also, how could they start the clock on the warranty if the vehicle is being sold as new? What am I missing here?

I talked to this dealer (Richie) in April and offered him $44.2k for the car and they were insulted. It is still on the MSO, so it's new, but the warranty clock started running in spring 2006 - I think there are 33 months left on the warranty. The story is that it was supposed to be a loaner, the warranty was registered with Porsche, but that the dealership decided that 5 speeds shouldn't be loaners. So it sat, and the warranty clock was running, but they supposedly forgot about that. The story continues that they noticed the warranty had been registered and in early 2007 contacted Porsche to reset the warranty clock - Porsche said " forget about it". So far it has lost between 12 and 15 months of warranty. I ended up buying a 2007 for $5k off sticker (different dealer) and couldn't be happier. Got a set of 18" Carrera S take-offs for a good price and I have that same car with more useful wheels that look exactly the same.

[Even Steven]

Originally Posted by JackTs2K

I talked to this dealer (Richie) in April and offered him $44.2k for the car and they were insulted. It is still on the MSO, so it's new, but the warranty clock started running in spring 2006 - I think there are 33 months left on the warranty. The story is that it was supposed to be a loaner, the warranty was registered with Porsche, but that the dealership decided that 5 speeds shouldn't be loaners. So it sat, and the warranty clock was running, but they supposedly forgot about that. The story continues that they noticed the warranty had been registered and in early 2007 contacted Porsche to reset the warranty clock - Porsche said " forget about it". So far it has lost between 12 and 15 months of warranty. I ended up buying a 2007 for $5k off sticker (different dealer) and couldn't be happier. Got a set of 18" Carrera S take-offs for a good price and I have that same car with more useful wheels that look exactly the same.

Are you sure it's the same car? The Porsche dealer in Manhattan--a black base model sitting in the showroom? If so, they are asking $44K for it now, so maybe they shouldn't have been so insulted back in April.

[JackTs2K]

Originally Posted by Even Steven

Are you sure it's the same car? The Porsche dealer in Manhattan--a black base model sitting in the showroom? If so, they are asking $44K for it now, so maybe they shouldn't have been so insulted back in April.

Yes I'm sure - Manhattan Motors on 11th Ave between 27th and 28th. Black with standard black interior, 19" wheels, 82 miles, $55k sticker. They've had it on eBay for the past six months, and until about 30 days ago were looking for about $46k.