07-28-2007, 01:03 PM
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Since many of us live in fear of engine failure (and i think some of us a pretty hazy on the true costs), can anybody post up some hard data (sorry if you are the one who is collecting it firsthand) on:
-total cost new engine replacement ($ cost and which engine, i.e. 2.7, 3.4, etc)
-quotes on in-shop repair costs based on new policy
I would assume that there would need to be a substantial savings in order to make in-shop repair a better option
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07-28-2007, 02:14 PM
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One of the problems with the whole, tear down to see if it can be fixed is that you're paying for something that might not result in a rebuild. I asked about this when my engine failed and I was told that while it could be cheaper to fix it - it could also add thousands to the cost if it turns out it can't be fixed. Hence, "new" engine.
I looked around but I can't find my receipt - probably at my Ex-Wife's. I seem to recall that it ran around $11,000 including a new clutch (as long as they were in there). Keep in mind that this was at an independent Porsche shop - the dealership was much more expensive. There's also no reason that you have to get a completely new or factory refurbished engine - that alone would save you quite a bit....
Sorry for your loss. Good luck!
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07-28-2007, 02:33 PM
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Here's an older thread containing a brand new 3.6L that was for sale for $9,500. I've seen some low mileage used ones in 6-8k range.
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07-28-2007, 03:09 PM
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Hi,
Sounds a lot like Porsche propping up the Dealerships (again). I would estimate that total costs could easily exceed 30% - 50% more than simply slapping in a new, rebuilt (and warranteed), Engine, and they're going to be principally Labor charges, and at Shop Rates (includes Dealer Mark-up). Additionally, the types of implosions these engines usually suffer tends to favor a new engine anyway, by probably a broad margin.
Then, there's the consequential damage, or more specifically checking for it - are the Dealers going to pull and measure every Valve, Piston, Camshaft, and Bearing Shell to insure it didn't suffer from the principal failure (especially important in IMS and RMS Failures)? If so, the Labor costs alone will exceed the cost of the re-man'd Engine.
Boy, this Boxster Ownership thing just keeps on getting better and better doesn't it? I can see the new JD Powers numbers now once this tidbit gets around.
To koboxster, sorry for your plight, hope it all works out...
Happy Motoring!... Jim
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07-28-2007, 03:44 PM
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OK, Thanks for all the advice. Sounds like a factory new or reman engine will probably be the way to go. That raises another question though. Could I be looking at another IMS with this new engine someday at 30-50,000 miles or do the new engines have this same possibility??
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07-28-2007, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by koboxster
OK, Thanks for all the advice. Sounds like a factory new or reman engine will probably be the way to go. That raises another question though. Could I be looking at another IMS with this new engine someday at 30-50,000 miles or do the new engines have this same possibility??
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Hi,
The design issue has not been fixed...
Happy Motoring!... Jim
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07-28-2007, 04:15 PM
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Another option is a used motor. I've replaced a lot of motors over the years for customers and friends. The one thing they had in common was no matter how well the motor ran, most of them sold the car within 1-2 years. When I asked why, they all said something to the effect: "It was running fine, but I just couldn't trust it, so I sold it while it was running well."
The easiest and least expensive thing to do is to install the same year used motor. This will give you, IME, the best chance of recovering your money later.
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