07-28-2007, 08:37 AM
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kwoboxster
Unfortunately I have no warranty! Anyone have an idea what a factory reman from porsche may cost? I have it at a "porsche only" shop, but is not a dealer. Very experienced shop but they said they have not had to replace an engine on this late model. Also would like more info on this 3.6 engine mentioned.
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07-28-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by koboxster
Unfortunately I have no warranty! Anyone have an idea what a factory reman from porsche may cost? I have it at a "porsche only" shop, but is not a dealer. Very experienced shop but they said they have not had to replace an engine on this late model. Also would like more info on this 3.6 engine mentioned.
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I would figure between $8000 and $10,000 for the motor and install.
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07-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Also would like more info on this 3.6 engine mentioned.
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If you have to replace the engine anyway, the 3.6 conversion might be the way to go. It would be a nice power improvement over the Boxster engine. It's not a rocket science conversion. Your Porsche-only shop should be able to complete it without too much difficulty. Check Rennlist. There's a step-by-step guide with photos over there by a guy who did it in his home garage. Of course with horsepower comes price. The swap will probably run you 12-15k.
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07-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by koboxster
Unfortunately I have no warranty! Anyone have an idea what a factory reman from porsche may cost? I have it at a "porsche only" shop, but is not a dealer. Very experienced shop but they said they have not had to replace an engine on this late model. Also would like more info on this 3.6 engine mentioned.
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The 3.6L engine mentioned was introduced in 2002 for the 996 model. It has appox 315-320hp in that car depending on year. Those cars had the Bosch Motronic 7.8 ECM. The 7.2 bosch ECM in your 01 S will have to be switched over to the 7.8 for the engine to run properly. You should also change over the complete exhaust to something that flows better otherwise the stock boxster exhaust will choke a 3.6L engine. For you, a realistic cost to switch over would be in the neighborhood of around 20 grand if you don't try to cut corners.
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07-28-2007, 12:03 PM
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Since many of us live in fear of engine failure (and i think some of us a pretty hazy on the true costs), can anybody post up some hard data (sorry if you are the one who is collecting it firsthand) on:
-total cost new engine replacement ($ cost and which engine, i.e. 2.7, 3.4, etc)
-quotes on in-shop repair costs based on new policy
I would assume that there would need to be a substantial savings in order to make in-shop repair a better option
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07-28-2007, 01:14 PM
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One of the problems with the whole, tear down to see if it can be fixed is that you're paying for something that might not result in a rebuild. I asked about this when my engine failed and I was told that while it could be cheaper to fix it - it could also add thousands to the cost if it turns out it can't be fixed. Hence, "new" engine.
I looked around but I can't find my receipt - probably at my Ex-Wife's. I seem to recall that it ran around $11,000 including a new clutch (as long as they were in there). Keep in mind that this was at an independent Porsche shop - the dealership was much more expensive. There's also no reason that you have to get a completely new or factory refurbished engine - that alone would save you quite a bit....
Sorry for your loss. Good luck!
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07-28-2007, 01:33 PM
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Here's an older thread containing a brand new 3.6L that was for sale for $9,500. I've seen some low mileage used ones in 6-8k range.
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07-28-2007, 02:09 PM
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Hi,
Sounds a lot like Porsche propping up the Dealerships (again). I would estimate that total costs could easily exceed 30% - 50% more than simply slapping in a new, rebuilt (and warranteed), Engine, and they're going to be principally Labor charges, and at Shop Rates (includes Dealer Mark-up). Additionally, the types of implosions these engines usually suffer tends to favor a new engine anyway, by probably a broad margin.
Then, there's the consequential damage, or more specifically checking for it - are the Dealers going to pull and measure every Valve, Piston, Camshaft, and Bearing Shell to insure it didn't suffer from the principal failure (especially important in IMS and RMS Failures)? If so, the Labor costs alone will exceed the cost of the re-man'd Engine.
Boy, this Boxster Ownership thing just keeps on getting better and better doesn't it? I can see the new JD Powers numbers now once this tidbit gets around.
To koboxster, sorry for your plight, hope it all works out...
Happy Motoring!... Jim
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07-28-2007, 02:44 PM
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OK, Thanks for all the advice. Sounds like a factory new or reman engine will probably be the way to go. That raises another question though. Could I be looking at another IMS with this new engine someday at 30-50,000 miles or do the new engines have this same possibility??
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07-29-2007, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
The 3.6L engine mentioned was introduced in 2002 for the 996 model.
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993's had the 3.6L.
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07-30-2007, 04:34 AM
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993's had the 3.6L.
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Yes, as did the 964's, but you can't put that one in your boxster
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07-30-2007, 09:53 AM
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Yes, as did the 964's, but you can't put that one in your boxster 
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oh, because it's air cooled?
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07-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowboxster01
oh, because it's air cooled?
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You are correct sir!
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