Dealer charges - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

mkgonza2 · 07-24-2007, 08:38 AM

I looked at the lease paperwork from when I leased my 2002 boxster and I could not find, or do I remember ever paying doc. fees or prep fees. Destination fees I understand, everyone always pays those but I have purchased many cars in my day and I have never paid the aforementioned fees.

danrhinofightteam · 07-24-2007, 09:12 AM

As a dealer i will tell you off the record that those a fake fees. When a car is made the include shipping on the factory invoice price so you are paying twice. And "dealer prep" is a glom. The factory preps the cars. When we get them all my tecs do is check the fluid levels and put gas in the tank.i know alot of highline dealers try to charge these fees but there all to make more profit. Again off the record lol

djomlas · 07-24-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by danrhinofightteam

As a dealer i will tell you off the record that those a fake fees. When a car is made the include shipping on the factory invoice price so you are paying twice. And "dealer prep" is a glom. The factory preps the cars. When we get them all my tecs do is check the fluid levels and put gas in the tank.i know alot of highline dealers try to charge these fees but there all to make more profit. Again off the record lol

haha, awesome thx man,, i knew there was something to that crap

Brucelee · 07-26-2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by danrhinofightteam

As a dealer i will tell you off the record that those a fake fees. When a car is made the include shipping on the factory invoice price so you are paying twice. And "dealer prep" is a glom. The factory preps the cars. When we get them all my tecs do is check the fluid levels and put gas in the tank.i know alot of highline dealers try to charge these fees but there all to make more profit. Again off the record lol

It is always dangerous to generalize based on one's own experience.

mkgonza2 · 07-26-2007, 10:53 AM

Yes it is an '08, probably the first to hit America. As far as document fees, I don't have an issue with a dealer making money -- when we work we need to get paid. The first issue I have is that I have a right to know what I am being charged for. When I asked for a breakdown of the doc. fees, I was told that there is no breakdown, it's just a charge they add to all their sales. Secondly, this is not a standard charge ( taxes, title fee, plates etc.... ) as such, they should disclose this fee up front, not at the end. It may not be, but is sure does appear deceptive.
Overall, I was able to order the car I wanted for 2k over invoice; I don't think there are many dealers that would sell you an '08 for that price. Ultimately, it's not the $250.00 doc. fee that upsets me -- it's the principle.

RandallNeighbour · 07-26-2007, 12:15 PM

When you go to pick up the car, drive it around the block, bring it back, ask to see the paperwork, and refuse to sign final papers on the car unless they lower the price of the car in the amount of the before-undisclosed document and prep fees.

The dealership's owner will tan their hides if he sess they waived these profit-padding fees, but won't mind seeing a couple of hundred knocked off the profit on the car.

Be prepared to walk off if they don't comply, knowing full well that you'll get a call on your home phone or cell phone within an hour with their willingness to comply with your request. The interest they would pay for your car to sit on their lot for a month or two until it sells is far more than $250, I assure you.

kras · 07-26-2007, 12:20 PM

Mkgonza2,
I'm in the market for a new Boxster as well. Could you please elaborate on the dealer you made --options, price etc...

Also, the 08 is supposed to have LED tail lights, new headlights and rumors of Direct Fuel Injection (which would increase HP). Do you have any info on this?

mkgonza2 · 07-26-2007, 01:27 PM

I sent you a private message with all the specifics on my '08. I also read all the good things about the DFI and led lights. I am scheduled to see me car for the first time sometime this weekend, but from what I have been told, all those improvements are scheduled for next year -- the '08 is basically the same as the '07 -- I know, I was disappointed too. I will let the forum know more when I pick up my car.

Perfectlap · 07-26-2007, 02:15 PM

what exactly does the dealer have to do in order to collect on his "doc fees".

as for the paper and tape all over the car...let the customer rip it off and save the customer $$$. I'm all for paying for the dealer's time but not at a multiple of 50x's the $8 per hour that he's paying the 20 year old part time worker to do it.
Imagine if I went to my dry cleaner and he said "we are now a 5 star Zagat rated dry cleaner and that $2 dry cleaning of your favorite shirt will now cost $100."
There's mark ups and then there's just being plain shady.