iphone

I worked in the computer industry for 15 year before retiring. I would rather have a high voltage line shoved up my culo before owning anything by Apple that could be of importance. Sure, I own 3 Ipods, but those are only for entertainment. A phone is something I consider a business application not a toy so the Blackberry will be just fine. I also consider all Mac computers to be toys for woman and children. Like I said, 15 years in the computer industry and I watched Apple do everything backwards for all of those 15 years.

[panameras]

Originally Posted by cartagena

Like I said, 15 years in the computer industry and I watched Apple do everything backwards for all of those 15 years.

How exactly did Apple do everything backwards for 15 years?

I own both a MacBook and a Sony laptop, the mac does everything the sony does and more, and in better style.

Im very tempted to get an iphone when it comes out in Australia. Great idea as it means I dont need to carry an ipod, a phone and a DC around everyday.

[Perfectlap]

fat finger typing trouble? LOL

be warned you will have to completely discard your long practiced two handed texting method. The buttons are very close to each other so you will have to hen peck the buttons with your index finger. A really uncessary change in my opinion
but this is only Iphone 1.0
there will be allot of changes and it will only get better. This phone is on whole different level to anything by Blackberry, Samsung, LG, Sony-E. etc.
I hope those guys are working weekends to catch up.

[xxxalexxxx]

my GF got the iphone recently so i played with it a bit and i think its great, it has a lot of capablities and is def. way ahead of the other phone companies. Someone mentioned it not being a good business tool, my GF owns two businesses and depends on her phone pretty much 24/7 and so far its serving her good, she did keep the blackberry for just in case but looks like she wont be needed to switch back to the blackberry for work purposes

[FrayAdjacent]

Originally Posted by xxxalexxxx

my GF got the iphone recently so i played with it a bit and i think its great, it has a lot of capablities and is def. way ahead of the other phone companies. Someone mentioned it not being a good business tool, my GF owns two businesses and depends on her phone pretty much 24/7 and so far its serving her good, she did keep the blackberry for just in case but looks like she wont be needed to switch back to the blackberry for work purposes

If you need to manipulate things like Excel and Word... or if you have an Exchange server set up to push mail to your Crackberry - you're out of luck.

If you just need to call people, the iPhone will work OK. It's great for grabbing numbers out of business listings from Google Maps, text messages and emails (a buddy emailed me his phone number... I went to email, to the message and tapped the number and it dialed). It's damn handy if you came from JUST a phone.

[prOk]

Part of the beauty of the iPhone is it's software.. features it doesn't have today can come over time.. Exchange push capability is already announced by august and editing office docs is also just around the corner.. those are the basics, cool things are yet to come!

Cartagena- your response is typical of people that are 'in the computer industry 15 years'... very closed minded and stuck in the past. The apple of 15 years ago has nothing to do with today. Everyone acknowledges that apple fell off the deep end in the 90's, but the MacOS of today is as advanced if not moreso than any OS on the market. Macs are based on the same bloody chips, drives, memory and standards as the best pc's you can buy. The difference is, apple pays close attention to the marriage between hardware and software which yields a much smoother user experience. Let go of past predjudices and take an unbiased look at what apple offers today, you might just be surprised. (I too have been in the 'computer industry' for 15+ years).

I can assure you I am not living in the past. Apple makes machines for a "special" market of people. About 12-13 years ago I started my first Internet company. This is when I was first exposed to the dreaded Mac users. I could always tell they had a Mac before they said so since they always yelled in the phone "My Internet is not working!" in a voice resembling someone with Down Syndrome. Of course though, Mac users all think they are special. Steve tells them so and they believe it. Basically Steve's motto is "hey losers, buy my crap and you will be special!" He makes the super-uncool think they are cool.

I can just imagine the people who lined up for an Iphone. I bet they were societies outcasts, -rejects who justify their existence by buying a phone. They think they are "in" and "cool" and "special" and "cutting edge"....

I could go on and on with this topic but I think it is best I stop. Not only is it off-topic but I am going to have nightmares tonight now that I have recalled my first experiences with Mac users. I thought I had blocked that ugly memory out of my mind but unfortunately it remains.

My opinion of Mac is not from the 90s. It is from the crap they are producing now. If you want a computer to do a real job then use some flavor of Unix. If you want a computer for work then use Windows. If you want a computer so you can feel "hip" and "cool" with all the other societal outcasts, well there is Apple.

This is nothing directed against you personally. I have just met too many Mac users to think of them as normal.

Originally Posted by prOk

Cartagena- your response is typical of people that are 'in the computer industry 15 years'... very closed minded and stuck in the past. The apple of 15 years ago has nothing to do with today. Everyone acknowledges that apple fell off the deep end in the 90's, but the MacOS of today is as advanced if not moreso than any OS on the market. Macs are based on the same bloody chips, drives, memory and standards as the best pc's you can buy. The difference is, apple pays close attention to the marriage between hardware and software which yields a much smoother user experience. Let go of past predjudices and take an unbiased look at what apple offers today, you might just be surprised. (I too have been in the 'computer industry' for 15+ years).

Computers are meant to do work. If you want to use it for a toy then lets call it a video game. Computers should not have little happy/sad faces for an error message. If my Unix systems have a problem I can go look at an error message, I do not know what a sad face means.

Originally Posted by panameras

How exactly did Apple do everything backwards for 15 years?

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by cartagena

I also consider all Mac computers to be toys for woman and children.

While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I could not disagree with you more.

I make a fine living in publishing with my Apple computers. And I've been publishing books and a quarterly periodical with it for many years. Apple computers aren't toys.

You may not like the way they come at programming from your own background, but that doesn't mean its wrong or bad. It's just different. Which brings me to an older byline they used to use: "Think Different."

BTW, Apple has always lagged behind PC's in the gaming industry... essentially proving that a PC makes a better "toy" than a Mac.

Just wait... the iPhone will probably become as common as the crackberries seen around airports everywhere, or all the other manufacturers will start releasing phones that are iPhone knock-offs to regain lost marketshare.