05-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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by the way, everytime I think about forking over $2-$5K on a WRISTWATCH, I'm reminded of that investment company commerical where the guy on safari is wearing some expensive watch and the narrator says how great it was and how it cost him $30K in lost investment potential....And every time I decide not to buy.. I just get more pleasure watching my Apple stock go up 20% in the last two weeks.
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05-14-2007, 02:53 PM
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I guess it's all about where you are at in your life. To many, $4k for a watch may not be a big deal. Granted, not in this price class but still a good example - my Movado purchase last year, although more than 20 times as expensive, was less of a stretch financially for me than the $25 watch I bought back when I was in the Army. Everything is relative.
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05-14-2007, 03:06 PM
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I think its about how important it is to you as well. I paid mmm about $4K for a carbon fiber Bianchi road bicycle with Carbon FIber Campagnolo Record 10 speed components and I had ZERO buyer's remorse. Must have put 10,000 miles on the the thing in several countries.
I know if I bought the watch I would be doing in the math of how I could have bought ten of these if I used the $5K to buy MasterCard after the IPO...In other words, the watch thing isn't that important to me. I think I saw Warren Buffet wearing a Timex on Charlie Rose last week.
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05-14-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowbox
Jim,
I'm into watches too, but not an expert. Are you implying that Valjoux movement is worse than ETA's? I do agree that most high end watches use ETA, except ones that uses their own in house movement (ie JLC), or in certain cases, other great movements (ie Piguet). I find that many sub $5k chrono watches use Valjoux 7750 or ETA 2892. I always thought they are sort of equals.... but i guess both Valjoux and ETA produce different classes of movements.
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Hi,
Understand that I too am far from expert, but to say that I " have opened your mouth, clearly, without knowing what you are talking about in this particular case", I am compelled to reply.
I wouldn't necessarily say that the Valjoux 7750 is patently inferior to ETA engines in the mid-price range. But, I think that if one looks at the Watches which use these engines, one will find the ETA watches tend to have the reputation of being more rugged, are easier/cheaper to repair, come from better recognized Watchmakers and also command slightly higher prices.
The Valjoux 77XX line of engines are good. But, like a Subaru, hardly the pinnacle of the breed. I guess I was trying to demonstrate that a Porsche Design watch, produced by the same person who owns Eterna S.A. ( Butzi Porsche), and using a Valjoux movement (to constrain manufacturing costs), isn't choosing to make a watch of superior quality. They're making a watch for the relative masses. I just think that in the sub-$1000 range, there are better watches out there, and some have agreed with me...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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05-14-2007, 04:17 PM
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what's a good watch in the sub 1000 range? I passed on a Tag Carrera Chrono with leather strap for $1500 recently. Didn't excite me like my Goodyear F1's.
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05-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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Hi,
It depends on what you want - a Sports Watch, Dress Watch.
Personally, for Dress, I wear a RADO Diastar Date, for Sport I wear a Breightling Aerospace Titanium. These are higher than the sub-$1000 price range, but I also wear a Torgoen T1 Titanium Flight Computer (E6B) - priced under $500. This is also an excellent Watch with an ETA quartz movement and has a guarantee of 3 years - longer than any number of premium watches costing $1k-$3k...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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05-14-2007, 04:50 PM
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hmmm..never heard of that brand
they have some other nice models for under $500
http://www.pilotmall.com/category/75/1
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05-14-2007, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
I think its about how important it is to you as well. I paid mmm about $4K for a carbon fiber Bianchi road bicycle with Carbon FIber Campagnolo Record 10 speed components and I had ZERO buyer's remorse. Must have put 10,000 miles on the the thing in several countries.
I know if I bought the watch I would be doing in the math of how I could have bought ten of these if I used the $5K to buy MasterCard after the IPO...In other words, the watch thing isn't that important to me. I think I saw Warren Buffet wearing a Timex on Charlie Rose last week.
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Good point. Nice bike by the way.
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05-14-2007, 05:05 PM
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I bought my Rolex in 1986 in Munich Wempe jewlers near Marienplatz. Staniless and gold for $2100. In 1989 bought women's version for my wife in same store. Going back for oktoberfest this sept. Maybe I will sell minf there.
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05-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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Hi,
The Torgoen Flight watches are pretty well respected. They're made of good quality components (usually ETA movements like in the T1 and T6) and offer a lot for their price range, including a very good warranty - http://www.torgoen.com/default.htm . I also like their T6 w/ Orange Dialface, but it's not offered in Titanium, and I like the lightweight.
I've had my T1 for a little over 5 yrs. and have changed the battery twice, no issues whatever. It's not a Fine Watch, like RADO, Breightling, Rolex, etc. but for a cheap knockaround, they're pretty good...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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